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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: Is LibreOffice *THAT* bad? :(
you are correct.... thanks for telling me!

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Dazed_75 <> wrote:

> Sounds like you missed doing the sudo apt-get update before the install so
> although the PPA was in the sources list, the local listing of what what is
> in the repositories had not been updated
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>
>> I just added the repository (sudo add-apt-repository
>> ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-1) (4.1.1 is the most current ppa) and tried
>> to install it (sudo apt-get install libreoffice) and the response is that
>> libreoffice is already the newest version. (libreoffice 3.6.2.2)
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Dazed_75 <> wrote:
>>
>>> There are many articles about how to get more up to date versions of
>>> almost any software than you distribution carries in its official
>>> repositories. LibreOffice is no different. One can download it directly
>>> from the LibreOffice site or you can add a PPA to your software sources.
>>> There are a few low risk drawbacks to doing so but they are minimal for a
>>> major piece of software. Just look at the LibreOffice.org site to see what
>>> the latest version is or Google the question.
>>>
>>> But you could first check what the Software center is offering because
>>> you 3.6? version is definitely old.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a way to get synaptic or apt to install a more recent version?
>>>>
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Brian Cluff <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you are seeing that, I would encourage you to upgrade. That is
>>>>> some basic functionality that is not working for you. I've never seen such
>>>>> a basic bug before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/27/2013 02:52 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.6.2.2
>>>>>> If I remember correctly it happens sporadically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian Cluff <
>>>>>> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What version are you using, because I definitely can't reproduce
>>>>>>     that. If I delete any of the cells, the answer is correct.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Brian

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 09/27/2013 12:53 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>         here is a good example... I found if I delete cells that
>>>>>>         functions are
>>>>>>         performed on (cell1+cell2=cell3) the total isn't recalculated
>>>>>> (cell3
>>>>>>         isn't right).

>>>>>>
>>>>>>         :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Paul Mooring <
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>         <mailto:paul@opscode.com>
>>>>>>         <mailto:paul@opscode.com <mailto:paul@opscode.com>>> wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>              I'm not really much of an office suite user, but my
>>>>>>         experience and
>>>>>>              the feedback I've heard has always been yes it is bad
>>>>>>         compared to MS
>>>>>>              Office.  I think Libre/Open office covers 90% of use
>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>         and is
>>>>>>              more than capable of handling what most users need,
>>>>>> however
>>>>>>         it's
>>>>>>              interface isn't nearly as good, it lacks the vbscript
>>>>>>         macros the
>>>>>>              rest of the world uses, it's charting/graphs don't look
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>         nice and
>>>>>>              formatting comes out mangled when excel users open it (or
>>>>>>         when you
>>>>>>              open an xlsx).  Microsoft has invested a lot of time,
>>>>>> money and
>>>>>>              energy into getting Excel just right and it really is a
>>>>>>         great (if
>>>>>>              not their best) product.  The heavy excel users I know
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>         don't
>>>>>>              run Windows keep a Win7 VM around for Office/Excel use.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>              As a side note I think one thing that the Linux/FLOSS
>>>>>>         community is
>>>>>>              very bad at is learning from what others get right.  You
>>>>>>         might not
>>>>>>              like Microsoft but to claim their popularity was in no
>>>>>> way
>>>>>>         due to
>>>>>>              making some good products is disingenuous at best.  If
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>              genuinely care about increasing Linux desktop usage
>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>         is not of
>>>>>>              any particular interest to me personally) the right
>>>>>>         questions to ask
>>>>>>              are about what MS and Apple get right rather than what
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>         get wrong.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM, <
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>         <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com <>>
>>>>>>              <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.__**com

>>>>>>
>>>>>>         <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com <>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                  So I talked my brother into ditching Micro$haft and
>>>>>>         moving to Linux.
>>>>>>                  Baaaad idea...
>>>>>>                  The man uses Excel *HEAVILY*, and LibreOffice just
>>>>>>         could not
>>>>>>                  keep up.
>>>>>>                  But it was not lack of features or limitations, it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>         *STUPID*
>>>>>>                  (but dangerous) things like cells not showing the
>>>>>> real
>>>>>>         value
>>>>>>                  and/or recalculating wrong.
>>>>>>                  I didn't take his word for it, he showed me the
>>>>>>         (unbelievable)
>>>>>>                  problems (I could not believe what I was seeing).
>>>>>>                  The guy is back to Excel...
>>>>>>                  What am I missing?
>>>>>>                  ET
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