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Author: Dazed_75
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Subject: Re: Is LibreOffice *THAT* bad? :(
Sounds like you missed doing the sudo apt-get update before the install so
although the PPA was in the sources list, the local listing of what what is
in the repositories had not been updated



On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> I just added the repository (sudo add-apt-repository
> ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-1) (4.1.1 is the most current ppa) and tried
> to install it (sudo apt-get install libreoffice) and the response is that
> libreoffice is already the newest version. (libreoffice 3.6.2.2)
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Dazed_75 <> wrote:
>
>> There are many articles about how to get more up to date versions of
>> almost any software than you distribution carries in its official
>> repositories. LibreOffice is no different. One can download it directly
>> from the LibreOffice site or you can add a PPA to your software sources.
>> There are a few low risk drawbacks to doing so but they are minimal for a
>> major piece of software. Just look at the LibreOffice.org site to see what
>> the latest version is or Google the question.
>>
>> But you could first check what the Software center is offering because
>> you 3.6? version is definitely old.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to get synaptic or apt to install a more recent version?
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Brian Cluff <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are seeing that, I would encourage you to upgrade. That is some
>>>> basic functionality that is not working for you. I've never seen such a
>>>> basic bug before.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/27/2013 02:52 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 3.6.2.2
>>>>> If I remember correctly it happens sporadically.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian Cluff <
>>>>> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     What version are you using, because I definitely can't reproduce
>>>>>     that. If I delete any of the cells, the answer is correct.

>>>>>
>>>>>     Brian

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 09/27/2013 12:53 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>         here is a good example... I found if I delete cells that
>>>>>         functions are
>>>>>         performed on (cell1+cell2=cell3) the total isn't recalculated
>>>>> (cell3
>>>>>         isn't right).

>>>>>
>>>>>         :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Paul Mooring <
>>>>> 
>>>>>         <mailto:paul@opscode.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:paul@opscode.com <mailto:paul@opscode.com>>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>              I'm not really much of an office suite user, but my
>>>>>         experience and
>>>>>              the feedback I've heard has always been yes it is bad
>>>>>         compared to MS
>>>>>              Office.  I think Libre/Open office covers 90% of use cases
>>>>>         and is
>>>>>              more than capable of handling what most users need,
>>>>> however
>>>>>         it's
>>>>>              interface isn't nearly as good, it lacks the vbscript
>>>>>         macros the
>>>>>              rest of the world uses, it's charting/graphs don't look as
>>>>>         nice and
>>>>>              formatting comes out mangled when excel users open it (or
>>>>>         when you
>>>>>              open an xlsx).  Microsoft has invested a lot of time,
>>>>> money and
>>>>>              energy into getting Excel just right and it really is a
>>>>>         great (if
>>>>>              not their best) product.  The heavy excel users I know
>>>>> that
>>>>>         don't
>>>>>              run Windows keep a Win7 VM around for Office/Excel use.

>>>>>
>>>>>              As a side note I think one thing that the Linux/FLOSS
>>>>>         community is
>>>>>              very bad at is learning from what others get right.  You
>>>>>         might not
>>>>>              like Microsoft but to claim their popularity was in no way
>>>>>         due to
>>>>>              making some good products is disingenuous at best.  If
>>>>> people
>>>>>              genuinely care about increasing Linux desktop usage (which
>>>>>         is not of
>>>>>              any particular interest to me personally) the right
>>>>>         questions to ask
>>>>>              are about what MS and Apple get right rather than what
>>>>> they
>>>>>         get wrong.

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>              On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM, <
>>>>> 
>>>>>         <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com <>>
>>>>>              <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.__**com

>>>>>
>>>>>         <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com <>>>>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>                  So I talked my brother into ditching Micro$haft and
>>>>>         moving to Linux.
>>>>>                  Baaaad idea...
>>>>>                  The man uses Excel *HEAVILY*, and LibreOffice just
>>>>>         could not
>>>>>                  keep up.
>>>>>                  But it was not lack of features or limitations, it was
>>>>>         *STUPID*
>>>>>                  (but dangerous) things like cells not showing the real
>>>>>         value
>>>>>                  and/or recalculating wrong.
>>>>>                  I didn't take his word for it, he showed me the
>>>>>         (unbelievable)
>>>>>                  problems (I could not believe what I was seeing).
>>>>>                  The guy is back to Excel...
>>>>>                  What am I missing?
>>>>>                  ET
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