Relevant, leaving this here without comment:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Kevin Fries <kevin@fries-biro.com> wrote:
> > I'm with you Paul. I have been feeling less and less in control of my
> > desktop o er the past few years. If I wanted to be told what was "good"
> > for me why would I not be using Windows or Mac? Lately I have been using
> > Arch and begun remembering why it was I liked Linux to start with. I
> > think I found a new "distro-home" at least for a little while.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > On Jul 30, 2013 11:29 AM, "Paul Mooring" <paul@opscode.com> wrote:
> >> In my case Unity was more like the straw that broke the camel's back.
> >> I don't particularly care for any of the changes Ubuntu made and have
> >>
> >> never liked debian packaging. I could maybe put up with upstart or unity
> >> or the frequent broken upgrade cycle on their own, but once unity
> >> launched
> >> and it was one more thing to hack around I had reached the point of
> >> wanting
> >> to just find greener pastures.
> >>
> >> That being said, you're right just switching distros for the desktop
> >>
> >> environment wouldn't make a whole lot of since, but things like apt (and
> >> it's overly opinionated packages) and upstart are too integral to the OS
> >> to
> >> make using alternatives not a huge pain.
> >>
> >> Paul Mooring
> >>
> >> Operations Engineer
> >> www.opscode.com
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org <
> >> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org> on behalf of Stephen <
> >> cryptworks@gmail.com>
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:26 AM
> >> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> >> *Subject:* Re: @@@ Pre-order your UBUNTU EDGE convergence phone today :)
> >> @@@
> >>
> >> I find it weird that people will drop a distribution because of unit. I
> >>
> >> dislike it, but it is so easy to flip to Gnome, KDE, XFCE, TWM, whatever
> >> that the overall hardware compatibility i get with an Ubuntu install
> >> combined with the ease of use apt management system and the huge supply
> >> of
> >> goodies in the repo far outweigh unity. besides, I'm pretty sure the
> >> default desktop experience will be configurable because Linux is cool
> >> like
> >> that.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring <paul@opscode.com> wrote:
> >>> I think that's how a lot of people feel, I disliked unity enough to
> >>> finally switch distros and haven't looked back since. That being said,
> >>> if
> >>> canonical can actually deliver on the dream of dropping my phone into a
> >>> dock and having a full Linux desktop and then just pulling it out and
> >>> taking it with me when I'm done, I'll put up with Unity without any
> >>> complaints at all.
> >>> --
> >>> Paul Mooring
> >>> Operations Engineer
> >>>
> >>> www.opscode.com
> >>>
> >>> On 7/29/13 6:17 PM, "Michael Butash" <michael@butash.net> wrote:
> >>> >I agree, I bought in on one - I really hope they come though. I'm
> >>> >super
> >>> >stoked for this...
> >>> >
> >>> >I've tried with android phones running linux atop their kernel, but ui
> >>> >is always a bit clunky/unusable (unity just simply never worked). I'm
> >>> >keen to see just how functional they or I can make the desktop
> >>> >experience, as normally first thing I do is disable unity with ubuntu.
> >>> >
> >>> >Need a local hackfest if/when these come through.
> >>> >
> >>> >-mb
> >>> >
> >>> >On 07/26/2013 11:18 AM, Paul Mooring wrote:
> >>> >> Keep in mind what they are shooting for is convergence, a multi-core
> >>> >> processor with 4GB(+?) of RAM that acts as the "brain" of your
> >>> >> desktop
> >>> >> computer. At $725 people would call this a steal as an ultra-light
> >>> >> laptop, combine that with a carrier like T-mobile that allows you to
> >>>
> >>> not
> >>>
> >>> >> pay for a phone if you don't get one and that's a whole lot of value
> >>>
> >>> for
> >>>
> >>> >> less than $1k.
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Paul Mooring
> >>> >> Operations Engineer
> >>> >
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> >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
> >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
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