Relevant, leaving this here without comment: https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: > > I'm with you Paul. I have been feeling less and less in control of my > > desktop o er the past few years. If I wanted to be told what was "good" > > for me why would I not be using Windows or Mac? Lately I have been using > > Arch and begun remembering why it was I liked Linux to start with. I > > think I found a new "distro-home" at least for a little while. > > > > Kevin > > > > On Jul 30, 2013 11:29 AM, "Paul Mooring" wrote: > >> In my case Unity was more like the straw that broke the camel's back. > >> I don't particularly care for any of the changes Ubuntu made and have > >> > >> never liked debian packaging. I could maybe put up with upstart or unity > >> or the frequent broken upgrade cycle on their own, but once unity > >> launched > >> and it was one more thing to hack around I had reached the point of > >> wanting > >> to just find greener pastures. > >> > >> That being said, you're right just switching distros for the desktop > >> > >> environment wouldn't make a whole lot of since, but things like apt (and > >> it's overly opinionated packages) and upstart are too integral to the OS > >> to > >> make using alternatives not a huge pain. > >> > >> Paul Mooring > >> > >> Operations Engineer > >> www.opscode.com > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> *From:* plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org < > >> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org> on behalf of Stephen < > >> cryptworks@gmail.com> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:26 AM > >> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list > >> *Subject:* Re: @@@ Pre-order your UBUNTU EDGE convergence phone today :) > >> @@@ > >> > >> I find it weird that people will drop a distribution because of unit. I > >> > >> dislike it, but it is so easy to flip to Gnome, KDE, XFCE, TWM, whatever > >> that the overall hardware compatibility i get with an Ubuntu install > >> combined with the ease of use apt management system and the huge supply > >> of > >> goodies in the repo far outweigh unity. besides, I'm pretty sure the > >> default desktop experience will be configurable because Linux is cool > >> like > >> that. > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: > >>> I think that's how a lot of people feel, I disliked unity enough to > >>> finally switch distros and haven't looked back since. That being said, > >>> if > >>> canonical can actually deliver on the dream of dropping my phone into a > >>> dock and having a full Linux desktop and then just pulling it out and > >>> taking it with me when I'm done, I'll put up with Unity without any > >>> complaints at all. > >>> -- > >>> Paul Mooring > >>> Operations Engineer > >>> > >>> www.opscode.com > >>> > >>> On 7/29/13 6:17 PM, "Michael Butash" wrote: > >>> >I agree, I bought in on one - I really hope they come though. I'm > >>> >super > >>> >stoked for this... > >>> > > >>> >I've tried with android phones running linux atop their kernel, but ui > >>> >is always a bit clunky/unusable (unity just simply never worked). I'm > >>> >keen to see just how functional they or I can make the desktop > >>> >experience, as normally first thing I do is disable unity with ubuntu. > >>> > > >>> >Need a local hackfest if/when these come through. > >>> > > >>> >-mb > >>> > > >>> >On 07/26/2013 11:18 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: > >>> >> Keep in mind what they are shooting for is convergence, a multi-core > >>> >> processor with 4GB(+?) of RAM that acts as the "brain" of your > >>> >> desktop > >>> >> computer. At $725 people would call this a steal as an ultra-light > >>> >> laptop, combine that with a carrier like T-mobile that allows you to > >>> > >>> not > >>> > >>> >> pay for a phone if you don't get one and that's a whole lot of value > >>> > >>> for > >>> > >>> >> less than $1k. > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Paul Mooring > >>> >> Operations Engineer > >>> > > >>> >--------------------------------------------------- > >>> >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> >http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> > >> -- > >> > >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > >> > >> Stephen > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si