Not really meaning to imply that about Ubuntu in particular, like I said they are super good at making desktop linux friendly to tech folks. I more meant that directed towards people who treat it as a foregone conclusion that getting more desktop marketshare should be the goal of Linux in general. As far as Canonical is concerned, I'm sure the server guys work really hard to provide a top notch product, but as a user of Ubuntu server at my day job I find it hard to believe that they don't make sacrifices on the server front to make core-Ubuntu desktop friendly (is there any sys-admin anywhere that thinks upstart and the "self-configuring" packages that auto-start services are good ideas?)
Paul Mooring
Operations Engineer
www.opscode.com
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Subject: Re: Switched off Ubuntu
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 17:34 +0000, Paul Mooring wrote:
As a side note, I do think it's justifiable to worry about the future of Linux if the well-funded distros focus on consumers. Linux's server market share is massive, it's desktop market share not so much. The more we rally around systems that facilitate desktops and get in the way on servers the less advantageous it is for the people paying for Linux development to keep doing so.
Not sure if you're implying this about Ubuntu or not, but FYI either way.
Canonical's work on Ubuntu is broadly broken into two pieces, server and client. This is from the CEO on down. There are several groups that step between those two (really oversimplified) categories. Personally, I work on the Client side of the company, so anything I say will be biased towards that. That doesn't mean those server guys aren't working hard to make Ubuntu a great server as well. We also don't separate out desktop in any meaningful way, it's all client, converged from desktop to tablet to phone.
Regardless of how you feel about Enterprise Linux without Red Hat (the company) success we would be years behind where we are right now.
Red Hat has make a large wake for other Open Source companies to grow and thrive in, especially in the enterprise markets. It's awesome.
Ted
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