Ironically enough, I got sick of Ubuntu for totally different reasons. I
don't like apt, but it's mostly a cosmetic thing. I know yum better, I have
to stop and think of what magic words it takes to make apt or aptitude do
the right thing.
I just got annoyed with Ubuntu's lack of a proper root account, or the
"let's make a gui for everything" approach. I must be the only tux lover
around who still likes older unix idioms and ways of doing things.
I miss hacking around with source based distros, but nowadays I just don't
have the time to maintain them. So Fedora strikes a good balance (for me)
between functionality and fresh software.
Adam
On 30 July 2013 11:04, Stephen <
cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote:
> That makes a ton more sense :-)
> On Jul 30, 2013 10:29 AM, "Paul Mooring" <paul@opscode.com> wrote:
>
>> In my case Unity was more like the straw that broke the camel's back.
>> I don't particularly care for any of the changes Ubuntu made and have
>> never liked debian packaging. I could maybe put up with upstart or unity
>> or the frequent broken upgrade cycle on their own, but once unity launched
>> and it was one more thing to hack around I had reached the point of wanting
>> to just find greener pastures.
>>
>> That being said, you're right just switching distros for the desktop
>> environment wouldn't make a whole lot of since, but things like apt (and
>> it's overly opinionated packages) and upstart are too integral to the OS to
>> make using alternatives not a huge pain.
>>
>>
>> Paul Mooring
>> Operations Engineer
>> www.opscode.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org <
>> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org> on behalf of Stephen <
>> cryptworks@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:26 AM
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: @@@ Pre-order your UBUNTU EDGE convergence phone today :)
>> @@@
>>
>> I find it weird that people will drop a distribution because of unit. I
>> dislike it, but it is so easy to flip to Gnome, KDE, XFCE, TWM, whatever
>> that the overall hardware compatibility i get with an Ubuntu install
>> combined with the ease of use apt management system and the huge supply of
>> goodies in the repo far outweigh unity. besides, I'm pretty sure the
>> default desktop experience will be configurable because Linux is cool like
>> that.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring <paul@opscode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that's how a lot of people feel, I disliked unity enough to
>>> finally switch distros and haven't looked back since. That being said,
>>> if
>>> canonical can actually deliver on the dream of dropping my phone into a
>>> dock and having a full Linux desktop and then just pulling it out and
>>> taking it with me when I'm done, I'll put up with Unity without any
>>> complaints at all.
>>> --
>>> Paul Mooring
>>> Operations Engineer
>>>
>>> www.opscode.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/29/13 6:17 PM, "Michael Butash" <michael@butash.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I agree, I bought in on one - I really hope they come though. I'm super
>>> >stoked for this...
>>> >
>>> >I've tried with android phones running linux atop their kernel, but ui
>>> >is always a bit clunky/unusable (unity just simply never worked). I'm
>>> >keen to see just how functional they or I can make the desktop
>>> >experience, as normally first thing I do is disable unity with ubuntu.
>>> >
>>> >Need a local hackfest if/when these come through.
>>> >
>>> >-mb
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On 07/26/2013 11:18 AM, Paul Mooring wrote:
>>> >> Keep in mind what they are shooting for is convergence, a multi-core
>>> >> processor with 4GB(+?) of RAM that acts as the "brain" of your desktop
>>> >> computer. At $725 people would call this a steal as an ultra-light
>>> >> laptop, combine that with a carrier like T-mobile that allows you to
>>> not
>>> >> pay for a phone if you don't get one and that's a whole lot of value
>>> for
>>> >> less than $1k.
>>> >> --
>>> >> Paul Mooring
>>> >> Operations Engineer
>>> >>
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>> --
>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
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