Ironically enough, I got sick of Ubuntu for totally different reasons. I don't like apt, but it's mostly a cosmetic thing. I know yum better, I have to stop and think of what magic words it takes to make apt or aptitude do the right thing. I just got annoyed with Ubuntu's lack of a proper root account, or the "let's make a gui for everything" approach. I must be the only tux lover around who still likes older unix idioms and ways of doing things. I miss hacking around with source based distros, but nowadays I just don't have the time to maintain them. So Fedora strikes a good balance (for me) between functionality and fresh software. Adam On 30 July 2013 11:04, Stephen wrote: > That makes a ton more sense :-) > On Jul 30, 2013 10:29 AM, "Paul Mooring" wrote: > >> In my case Unity was more like the straw that broke the camel's back. >> I don't particularly care for any of the changes Ubuntu made and have >> never liked debian packaging. I could maybe put up with upstart or unity >> or the frequent broken upgrade cycle on their own, but once unity launched >> and it was one more thing to hack around I had reached the point of wanting >> to just find greener pastures. >> >> That being said, you're right just switching distros for the desktop >> environment wouldn't make a whole lot of since, but things like apt (and >> it's overly opinionated packages) and upstart are too integral to the OS to >> make using alternatives not a huge pain. >> >> >> Paul Mooring >> Operations Engineer >> www.opscode.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org < >> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org> on behalf of Stephen < >> cryptworks@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:26 AM >> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >> *Subject:* Re: @@@ Pre-order your UBUNTU EDGE convergence phone today :) >> @@@ >> >> I find it weird that people will drop a distribution because of unit. I >> dislike it, but it is so easy to flip to Gnome, KDE, XFCE, TWM, whatever >> that the overall hardware compatibility i get with an Ubuntu install >> combined with the ease of use apt management system and the huge supply of >> goodies in the repo far outweigh unity. besides, I'm pretty sure the >> default desktop experience will be configurable because Linux is cool like >> that. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: >> >>> I think that's how a lot of people feel, I disliked unity enough to >>> finally switch distros and haven't looked back since. That being said, >>> if >>> canonical can actually deliver on the dream of dropping my phone into a >>> dock and having a full Linux desktop and then just pulling it out and >>> taking it with me when I'm done, I'll put up with Unity without any >>> complaints at all. >>> -- >>> Paul Mooring >>> Operations Engineer >>> >>> www.opscode.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/29/13 6:17 PM, "Michael Butash" wrote: >>> >>> >I agree, I bought in on one - I really hope they come though. I'm super >>> >stoked for this... >>> > >>> >I've tried with android phones running linux atop their kernel, but ui >>> >is always a bit clunky/unusable (unity just simply never worked). I'm >>> >keen to see just how functional they or I can make the desktop >>> >experience, as normally first thing I do is disable unity with ubuntu. >>> > >>> >Need a local hackfest if/when these come through. >>> > >>> >-mb >>> > >>> > >>> >On 07/26/2013 11:18 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: >>> >> Keep in mind what they are shooting for is convergence, a multi-core >>> >> processor with 4GB(+?) of RAM that acts as the "brain" of your desktop >>> >> computer. At $725 people would call this a steal as an ultra-light >>> >> laptop, combine that with a carrier like T-mobile that allows you to >>> not >>> >> pay for a phone if you don't get one and that's a whole lot of value >>> for >>> >> less than $1k. >>> >> -- >>> >> Paul Mooring >>> >> Operations Engineer >>> >> >>> >--------------------------------------------------- >>> >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >