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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: email database
i'm not doing internet marketing..... I am targeting specific people who
are owed money. If they don't like the service I am offering they never
hear from me again. :)
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Lisa Kachold <>wrote:

> Email pharming and phishing is a "well" developed part of internet
> marketing.
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Derek Trotter <>wrote:
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>> Good luck finding a database that will be useful. It's very easy to
>> change email addresses. Also it's easy to get an email address without
>> giving your real name or any other real information. I've had one for
>> several years. When I signed up for it, Yahoo asked me where I lived. I
>> told them I live in Beverly Hills. I know snail mail is more expensive,
>> but you have a better chance of reaching customers who live in the area
>> you're targeting. You might look online and find an email address for John
>> Smith, but is that the John Smith in Cottonwood, or is it the John smith in
>> Barrow, or one in Melbourne?
>>
>> To get accurate email addresses, you would be better off putting up a
>> request on your business website. If you have a form on the site,
>> customers can use that. Just be sure to code the form so that someone
>> can't see the email address the submissions will be going to. Also you can
>> give an email address, but write out everything instead of using . and @.
>> For example: greg dot house at vicodin dot com
>>
>>
>> On 05/30/2013 08:59 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> I'm in a new business venture and I need to find peoples email addresses
>> to make the process easier. Otherwise I will have to go the snail-mail
>> route. Does anyone know of a database tht matches names to email addresses?
>> My web search gave me two (http://usenet-addresses.mit.edu/
>> http://www.netlib.org/na-net/search_mail_forw.html) but I didn't find
>> any searched for addresses. (no I am not getting into spamming people)
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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> You pretty much need to have your customers opt in to really use email
> marketing successfully. Therefore, companies generally have contests or
> require a registration that creates a list for mass mailings that can be
> exported to something like OpenEMM or a MailMonkey list plugin to a CMS
> (like drupal, Concrete5 or Wordpress).
>
> There are many tools that will walk large numbers of websites scraping off
> email addresses and you can but marketing lists that are guaranteed to be
> successful for various types of products.
>
> If you are planning to do email marketing you will need a completely
> functional unsubscribe link (like that provided from OpenEMM) for the
> bottom of your emails.
>
> You will also require a static IP address (that has a perfectly unique
> reverse DNS that is not designated in the SWIP database as "dynamic" like
> those from cox to get around spamassassin scoring issues, and SPF records.
>
> But if you are serious about getting email addresses (and other
> information) simply by the use of name/city search, you might get or write
> an API that will do a quick search/scrape of sites like spokeo.com that
> generally contain a great deal of public information.
>
> Spokeo's paid service WILL most often provide what you need. Writing the
> php, perl or python script that does the lookup for you automatically and
> scrapes the email address(es) into your database is also very trivial:
>
> http://www.mozenda.com/email-extractor
>
> There are other free search services (which I posted some years ago to
> discuss) that have an incredible amount of private information. Here's the
> full list:
>
> https://www.privacyrights.org/online-information-brokers-list
>
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>>
>> Patrick Moore
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