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Author: Lisa Kachold
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Subject: Re: email database
Email pharming and phishing is a "well" developed part of internet
marketing.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Derek Trotter <>wrote:

> Good luck finding a database that will be useful. It's very easy to
> change email addresses. Also it's easy to get an email address without
> giving your real name or any other real information. I've had one for
> several years. When I signed up for it, Yahoo asked me where I lived. I
> told them I live in Beverly Hills. I know snail mail is more expensive,
> but you have a better chance of reaching customers who live in the area
> you're targeting. You might look online and find an email address for John
> Smith, but is that the John Smith in Cottonwood, or is it the John smith in
> Barrow, or one in Melbourne?
>
> To get accurate email addresses, you would be better off putting up a
> request on your business website. If you have a form on the site,
> customers can use that. Just be sure to code the form so that someone
> can't see the email address the submissions will be going to. Also you can
> give an email address, but write out everything instead of using . and @.
> For example: greg dot house at vicodin dot com
>
>
> On 05/30/2013 08:59 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> I'm in a new business venture and I need to find peoples email addresses
> to make the process easier. Otherwise I will have to go the snail-mail
> route. Does anyone know of a database tht matches names to email addresses?
> My web search gave me two (http://usenet-addresses.mit.edu/
> http://www.netlib.org/na-net/search_mail_forw.html) but I didn't find any
> searched for addresses. (no I am not getting into spamming people)
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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You pretty much need to have your customers opt in to really use email
marketing successfully. Therefore, companies generally have contests or
require a registration that creates a list for mass mailings that can be
exported to something like OpenEMM or a MailMonkey list plugin to a CMS
(like drupal, Concrete5 or Wordpress).

There are many tools that will walk large numbers of websites scraping off
email addresses and you can but marketing lists that are guaranteed to be
successful for various types of products.

If you are planning to do email marketing you will need a completely
functional unsubscribe link (like that provided from OpenEMM) for the
bottom of your emails.

You will also require a static IP address (that has a perfectly unique
reverse DNS that is not designated in the SWIP database as "dynamic" like
those from cox to get around spamassassin scoring issues, and SPF records.

But if you are serious about getting email addresses (and other
information) simply by the use of name/city search, you might get or write
an API that will do a quick search/scrape of sites like spokeo.com that
generally contain a great deal of public information.

Spokeo's paid service WILL most often provide what you need. Writing the
php, perl or python script that does the lookup for you automatically and
scrapes the email address(es) into your database is also very trivial:

http://www.mozenda.com/email-extractor

There are other free search services (which I posted some years ago to
discuss) that have an incredible amount of private information. Here's the
full list:

https://www.privacyrights.org/online-information-brokers-list

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