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Author: Lisa Kachold
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Subject: Re: email database
Mike,

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> i'm not doing internet marketing..... I am targeting specific people who
> are owed money. If they don't like the service I am offering they never
> hear from me again. :)
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>


That is specifically what is referred to as Non-solicited bulk email
marketing. I.E. SPAM UBE (unsolicited bulk email):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_spam

To send non-solicited email to individuals you MUST meet various
requirements - OPT OUT link at the bottom of all mail with content/subject
meeting requirements.

What IS the difference between a mailinglist and a spam list:

http://www.spamhaus.org/whitepapers/mailinglists/

The bottom line here is that (excerpt):

*In the event of a "spam" accusation:*

The Bulk Email Sender has no verifiable proof that the recipient consented
to be placed on the bulk mailing list and is therefore liable for having
sent Unsolicited Bulk Email a/k/a Spam. Action can be taken against the
Sender. The sending of Unsolicited Bulk Email is against all ISP Terms of
Service worldwide, is illegal in many countries, and is against Spamhaus
SBL policy.



>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Lisa Kachold <>wrote:
>
>> Email pharming and phishing is a "well" developed part of internet
>> marketing.
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Derek Trotter <>wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck finding a database that will be useful. It's very easy to
>>> change email addresses. Also it's easy to get an email address without
>>> giving your real name or any other real information. I've had one for
>>> several years. When I signed up for it, Yahoo asked me where I lived. I
>>> told them I live in Beverly Hills. I know snail mail is more expensive,
>>> but you have a better chance of reaching customers who live in the area
>>> you're targeting. You might look online and find an email address for John
>>> Smith, but is that the John Smith in Cottonwood, or is it the John smith in
>>> Barrow, or one in Melbourne?
>>>
>>> To get accurate email addresses, you would be better off putting up a
>>> request on your business website. If you have a form on the site,
>>> customers can use that. Just be sure to code the form so that someone
>>> can't see the email address the submissions will be going to. Also you can
>>> give an email address, but write out everything instead of using . and @.
>>> For example: greg dot house at vicodin dot com
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/30/2013 08:59 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in a new business venture and I need to find peoples email addresses
>>> to make the process easier. Otherwise I will have to go the snail-mail
>>> route. Does anyone know of a database tht matches names to email addresses?
>>> My web search gave me two (http://usenet-addresses.mit.edu/
>>> http://www.netlib.org/na-net/search_mail_forw.html) but I didn't find
>>> any searched for addresses. (no I am not getting into spamming people)
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
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>> You pretty much need to have your customers opt in to really use email
>> marketing successfully. Therefore, companies generally have contests or
>> require a registration that creates a list for mass mailings that can be
>> exported to something like OpenEMM or a MailMonkey list plugin to a CMS
>> (like drupal, Concrete5 or Wordpress).
>>
>> There are many tools that will walk large numbers of websites scraping
>> off email addresses and you can but marketing lists that are guaranteed to
>> be successful for various types of products.
>>
>> If you are planning to do email marketing you will need a completely
>> functional unsubscribe link (like that provided from OpenEMM) for the
>> bottom of your emails.
>>
>> You will also require a static IP address (that has a perfectly unique
>> reverse DNS that is not designated in the SWIP database as "dynamic" like
>> those from cox to get around spamassassin scoring issues, and SPF records.
>>
>> But if you are serious about getting email addresses (and other
>> information) simply by the use of name/city search, you might get or write
>> an API that will do a quick search/scrape of sites like spokeo.com that
>> generally contain a great deal of public information.
>>
>> Spokeo's paid service WILL most often provide what you need. Writing the
>> php, perl or python script that does the lookup for you automatically and
>> scrapes the email address(es) into your database is also very trivial:
>>
>> http://www.mozenda.com/email-extractor
>>
>> There are other free search services (which I posted some years ago to
>> discuss) that have an incredible amount of private information. Here's the
>> full list:
>>
>> https://www.privacyrights.org/online-information-brokers-list
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Patrick Moore
>>>
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