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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: programming
found it! a little duckduckgo search (its better than google) revealed
http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/programming.php which will keep me happy
for a bit.
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> how do you get tho withse free books? or at least those books that are
> under 5 dollars? They want too much for Head First Programming. (maybe not
> to much but more than I can swing)
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>
>> thankks James. I'll look into getting thay one.
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM, James Dugger <>wrote:
>>
>>> A good book for entry level programing is Head First Programing by
>>> O'Reilly books you can get it in pdf form through O'yoReilly. It is easy
>>> to follow and is designed for people with little or no formal training in
>>> programing.
>>>
>>> I gave it to my 13 year old son this summer and got him to use it to
>>> learn programing. He has moved through most of the chapters by himself
>>> with little need for help.
>>>
>>> It teaches the fundamentals of programing OOP using the python
>>> language. I like python for several reasons.
>>>
>>> 1. It is a high level language - no need for compiling to run your
>>> programs.
>>>
>>> 2. Its syntax is simple and straight forward.
>>> 3. It is used in both web development as a server side language and
>>> is common in Linux and used in system administration.
>>> 4. It is used by Google in their Google Apps.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>> On Aug 20, 2012 8:22 AM, "keith smith" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what being a skilled JavaScript programmer really means,
>>>> however there are lots of challenges. Maybe that is why there is a
>>>> "shortage", if there really is one. Maybe you can achieve everything you
>>>> need to with jQuery or another such library. You will need to know HTML,
>>>> how the DOM works, and CSS. At that point if you learn PHP or some other
>>>> server side programming language you would have a complete marketable skill
>>>> set. Of course basic Apache and MySql skills would come in handy also.
>>>> None of these skills live in a vacuum.
>>>>
>>>> Being a JavaScript expert would be pretty neat since JavaScript runs in
>>>> the browser. I'd do some research on demand before jumping in.
>>>>
>>>> If I were just getting started I'd learn how to program a smart device
>>>> running Android.
>>>>
>>>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Another thing you might consider. It is very hard to break into
>>>> programming in Corporate America. Learning how to program smart devises
>>>> might help you do freelance work. That might be where you really find the
>>>> demand.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing. Having several people give you advice on a tech list is
>>>> just that. The bottom line is you have to make it work. The buck stops
>>>> with you. I'd do lots of research and try out the different languages
>>>> before investing lots of time and effort. Also develop a business plan.
>>>> Even if you plan to work W2, I suggest a business plan so you can see how
>>>> that might work. You are a business even if you work W2.
>>>>
>>>> The first questions I'd ask myself is :
>>>>
>>>> 1) what are you deeply passionate about
>>>> 2) what were you genetically encoded to do
>>>> 3) will, whatever this is, drive you economic engine?
>>>>
>>>> Having a desire to be a programmer does not mean one should become a
>>>> programmer. You may have been designed to do something else. Also
>>>> programming skills come in handy in other fields. For instance if you were
>>>> in a financial analyst position you might be more productive if you were
>>>> able to pull raw data from a database, and create reports, maybe in spread
>>>> sheet format, that you and your group might be able to use in the
>>>> performance of your duties.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Michael Havens <>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Michael Havens <>
>>>> Subject: Re: programming
>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:51 PM
>>>>
>>>> Well, I am going to take Alan and Joseph;s suggestion and learn
>>>> JavaScript. Look at that! Codeacademy didn't give me a choice as to which
>>>> language I wanted to learn but rather started me right off with JS! Thank
>>>> you so much for responding to me guys.
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, keith smith <<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Keith Smith d Joseph;
>>>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Alan Dayley <<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Alan Dayley <<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: Re: programming
>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>> >
>>>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:30 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most places I visit use web-based applications more and more often.
>>>> And, in such places, JavaScript developers seem to be in short supply.
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Michael Havens <<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> thank you so much for your help. What would you suggest as a marketable
>>>> language for me to learn?
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Alan Dayley <<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://codeacademy.com has free classes for much of the basics in
>>>> several languages. They just added Python. Look to see if that fits
>>>> your learning goals.
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Michael Havens <<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I was wondering..... how do you find the free kindle books and I was
>>>> hoping to find a book that would teach programming from the ground up with
>>>> exercises and stuff like that. Free is about all I can afford with two kids
>>>> and being on disability and all the crap that is going on in my life! WHat
>>>> is a good language to start learning? I remember that a friend of mine who
>>>> went to Devry in 91 the first language he learned was Pascal. Is that a
>>>> good language to start with or should I rather start with something more
>>>> useful? Like maybe Java or Javascript or would you recommend something
>>>> else? This is going to be completely a home study thing. I do have a Python
>>>> book for python2.1 by Deitel, Liperi, and Weidermann (copywrite 02). I
>>>> think I will work out of that unless you think it is too old. Please don't
>>>> ask what I want to do with whatever I learn because right now I don't know
>>>> what the possibilities of learning a language (be it Python, DHTML, or
>>>> whatever). You know what, I also
>>>> have a DHTML book (<c>1997) anda java book (<c> 96) that are really
>>>> old. Do you think I should use them? Yeah, I'm thinking HTML and Java are
>>>> more practical. I can offer to program things for people. What do you think
>>>> I should do?
>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
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