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Author: Michael Havens
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: programming
thankks James. I'll look into getting thay one.
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM, James Dugger <>wrote:

> A good book for entry level programing is Head First Programing by
> O'Reilly books you can get it in pdf form through O'Reilly. It is easy to
> follow and is designed for people with little or no formal training in
> programing.
>
> I gave it to my 13 year old son this summer and got him to use it to learn
> programing. He has moved through most of the chapters by himself with
> little need for help.
>
> It teaches the fundamentals of programing OOP using the python language.
> I like python for several reasons.
>
> 1. It is a high level language - no need for compiling to run your
> programs.
>
> 2. Its syntax is simple and straight forward.
> 3. It is used in both web development as a server side language and is
> common in Linux and used in system administration.
> 4. It is used by Google in their Google Apps.
>
> Good luck
> On Aug 20, 2012 8:22 AM, "keith smith" <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what being a skilled JavaScript programmer really means,
>> however there are lots of challenges. Maybe that is why there is a
>> "shortage", if there really is one. Maybe you can achieve everything you
>> need to with jQuery or another such library. You will need to know HTML,
>> how the DOM works, and CSS. At that point if you learn PHP or some other
>> server side programming language you would have a complete marketable skill
>> set. Of course basic Apache and MySql skills would come in handy also.
>> None of these skills live in a vacuum.
>>
>> Being a JavaScript expert would be pretty neat since JavaScript runs in
>> the browser. I'd do some research on demand before jumping in.
>>
>> If I were just getting started I'd learn how to program a smart device
>> running Android.
>>
>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
>>
>> Another thing you might consider. It is very hard to break into
>> programming in Corporate America. Learning how to program smart devises
>> might help you do freelance work. That might be where you really find the
>> demand.
>>
>> Another thing. Having several people give you advice on a tech list is
>> just that. The bottom line is you have to make it work. The buck stops
>> with you. I'd do lots of research and try out the different languages
>> before investing lots of time and effort. Also develop a business plan.
>> Even if you plan to work W2, I suggest a business plan so you can see how
>> that might work. You are a business even if you work W2.
>>
>> The first questions I'd ask myself is :
>>
>> 1) what are you deeply passionate about
>> 2) what were you genetically encoded to do
>> 3) will, whatever this is, drive you economic engine?
>>
>> Having a desire to be a programmer does not mean one should become a
>> programmer. You may have been designed to do something else. Also
>> programming skills come in handy in other fields. For instance if you were
>> in a financial analyst position you might be more productive if you were
>> able to pull raw data from a database, and create reports, maybe in spread
>> sheet format, that you and your group might be able to use in the
>> performance of your duties.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Michael Havens <>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Michael Havens <>
>> Subject: Re: programming
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:51 PM
>>
>> Well, I am going to take Alan and Joseph;s suggestion and learn
>> JavaScript. Look at that! Codeacademy didn't give me a choice as to which
>> language I wanted to learn but rather started me right off with JS! Thank
>> you so much for responding to me guys.
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, keith smith <<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith d Joseph;
>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Alan Dayley <<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Alan Dayley <<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: programming
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>> >
>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:30 PM
>>
>>
>> Most places I visit use web-based applications more and more often. And,
>> in such places, JavaScript developers seem to be in short supply.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Michael Havens <<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> thank you so much for your help. What would you suggest as a marketable
>> language for me to learn?
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Alan Dayley <<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> http://codeacademy.com has free classes for much of the basics in
>> several languages. They just added Python. Look to see if that fits
>> your learning goals.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Michael Havens <<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I was wondering..... how do you find the free kindle books and I was
>> hoping to find a book that would teach programming from the ground up with
>> exercises and stuff like that. Free is about all I can afford with two kids
>> and being on disability and all the crap that is going on in my life! WHat
>> is a good language to start learning? I remember that a friend of mine who
>> went to Devry in 91 the first language he learned was Pascal. Is that a
>> good language to start with or should I rather start with something more
>> useful? Like maybe Java or Javascript or would you recommend something
>> else? This is going to be completely a home study thing. I do have a Python
>> book for python2.1 by Deitel, Liperi, and Weidermann (copywrite 02). I
>> think I will work out of that unless you think it is too old. Please don't
>> ask what I want to do with whatever I learn because right now I don't know
>> what the possibilities of learning a language (be it Python, DHTML, or
>> whatever). You know what, I also
>> have a DHTML book (<c>1997) anda java book (<c> 96) that are really
>> old. Do you think I should use them? Yeah, I'm thinking HTML and Java are
>> more practical. I can offer to program things for people. What do you think
>> I should do?
>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
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