RE: Sonoran Penguin

Well it's not too eye catchy right now, it's pretty much the plain one I
think with the log changed, so unless you came up with something horrible,
everyone already likes the sonorant penguin.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On
> Behalf Of Joshua Zeidner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:00 PM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin
>
> no way I would even bother without having my terms agreed to
> by a party who is in the position to do so. Its not asking a
> lot, its basically a safeguard against my time being utterly
> wasted. I've worked enough with these free-for-all
> technology groups to know what to expect of human nature. -jmz
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Bob Elzer<bob.elzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now I think you're procrastinating :-)
> >
> > First you said you would do it, and let everyone decide if we liked
> > it. Now you don't want to.
> >
> > For all we know you might come up with a horrible design.
> >
> > You're going to have to show us what you got, before we say
> it should
> > be the new theme.
> >
> > Time to put up or....   :-)
> >
> > And if it isn't obvious, this is in FUN !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On
> Behalf Of
> >> Joshua Zeidner
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:22 PM
> >> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> >> Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin
> >>
> >>  well needless to say Im not interested in doing a template.
> >> Think about it... why would I do it?  I dont have any
> guarantee it 1)
> >> will be used, 2) be put in a context that doesnt make it look like
> >> garbage,
> >> 3) be attributed.  Just following here for educational
> purposes.   ..
> >> Seems like the concern is you're going to scare away people if
> >> management is introduced.  conversely, youre going to scare away
> >> people if management isnt introduced (the OT problem).
> >>
> >>  non-existent steering committee: Sounds like you've got
> an issue on
> >> your hands.
> >>
> >>   -jmz
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:56 PM, R P
> >> Herrold<herrold@owlriver.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>  Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear
> >> >> management.  Who will determine what is an 'improvement'
> >> and what is
> >> >> a total failure?  PLUG needs to grow up and harness the
> >> talents that
> >> >> we currently have in abundance.  Stop with these silly games
> >> >> pretending no one is running the show.
> >> >
> >> > Someone pays the domain renewal bill (if any); someone
> >> pays, or calls
> >> > a favor, with the location the box is hosted; someone has
> >> root on that
> >> > box.   Find those answers, and you have the throat to choke.
> >> >
> >> > Unhappy with those answers?  Can't figure it out?  Fork and
> >> > out-perform the incumbent.  Running code talks.  This is
> FOSS after
> >> > all.
> >> >
> >> > No slam on der Hans, or Lisa.  Running a LUG is hard;
> >> running it for
> >> > years and years is even harder
> >> >
> >> > Bring your own domain registration for a LUG, and I'll
> >> provide access
> >> > to a host for a virthost website, mailing list, etc on a
> >> box that has
> >> > in its past hosted Distrowatch, the Metro Detroit LUG, the
> >> Tampa LUG,
> >> > a couple of defunct LUGs, and the Central OH LUG
> >> (currently).  Others
> >> > as well, but I fergit.
> >> >
> >> > But kvetching about it and not acting is just pointless.
> >> >
> >> > -- Russ herrold
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