Well it's not too eye catchy right now, it's pretty much the plain one I think with the log changed, so unless you came up with something horrible, everyone already likes the sonorant penguin. > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On > Behalf Of Joshua Zeidner > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:00 PM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin > > no way I would even bother without having my terms agreed to > by a party who is in the position to do so. Its not asking a > lot, its basically a safeguard against my time being utterly > wasted. I've worked enough with these free-for-all > technology groups to know what to expect of human nature. -jmz > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Bob Elzer wrote: > > Now I think you're procrastinating :-) > > > > First you said you would do it, and let everyone decide if we liked > > it. Now you don't want to. > > > > For all we know you might come up with a horrible design. > > > > You're going to have to show us what you got, before we say > it should > > be the new theme. > > > > Time to put up or....   :-) > > > > And if it isn't obvious, this is in FUN !!! > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On > Behalf Of > >> Joshua Zeidner > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:22 PM > >> To: Main PLUG discussion list > >> Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin > >> > >>  well needless to say Im not interested in doing a template. > >> Think about it... why would I do it?  I dont have any > guarantee it 1) > >> will be used, 2) be put in a context that doesnt make it look like > >> garbage, > >> 3) be attributed.  Just following here for educational > purposes.   .. > >> Seems like the concern is you're going to scare away people if > >> management is introduced.  conversely, youre going to scare away > >> people if management isnt introduced (the OT problem). > >> > >>  non-existent steering committee: Sounds like you've got > an issue on > >> your hands. > >> > >>   -jmz > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:56 PM, R P > >> Herrold wrote: > >> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > >> > > >> >>  Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear > >> >> management.  Who will determine what is an 'improvement' > >> and what is > >> >> a total failure?  PLUG needs to grow up and harness the > >> talents that > >> >> we currently have in abundance.  Stop with these silly games > >> >> pretending no one is running the show. > >> > > >> > Someone pays the domain renewal bill (if any); someone > >> pays, or calls > >> > a favor, with the location the box is hosted; someone has > >> root on that > >> > box.   Find those answers, and you have the throat to choke. > >> > > >> > Unhappy with those answers?  Can't figure it out?  Fork and > >> > out-perform the incumbent.  Running code talks.  This is > FOSS after > >> > all. > >> > > >> > No slam on der Hans, or Lisa.  Running a LUG is hard; > >> running it for > >> > years and years is even harder > >> > > >> > Bring your own domain registration for a LUG, and I'll > >> provide access > >> > to a host for a virthost website, mailing list, etc on a > >> box that has > >> > in its past hosted Distrowatch, the Metro Detroit LUG, the > >> Tampa LUG, > >> > a couple of defunct LUGs, and the Central OH LUG > >> (currently).  Others > >> > as well, but I fergit. > >> > > >> > But kvetching about it and not acting is just pointless. > >> > > >> > -- Russ herrold > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss