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Author: Bob Elzer
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To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: Sonoran Penguin
Now I think you're procrastinating :-)

First you said you would do it, and let everyone decide if we liked it. Now
you don't want to.

For all we know you might come up with a horrible design.

You're going to have to show us what you got, before we say it should be the
new theme.

Time to put up or.... :-)

And if it isn't obvious, this is in FUN !!!




> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On
> Behalf Of Joshua Zeidner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:22 PM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin
>
> well needless to say Im not interested in doing a template.
> Think about it... why would I do it? I dont have any
> guarantee it 1) will be used, 2) be put in a context that
> doesnt make it look like garbage,
> 3) be attributed. Just following here for educational purposes. ..
> Seems like the concern is you're going to scare away people
> if management is introduced. conversely, youre going to
> scare away people if management isnt introduced (the OT problem).
>
> non-existent steering committee: Sounds like you've got an
> issue on your hands.
>
> -jmz
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:56 PM, R P
> Herrold<> wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> >
> >>  Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear
> >> management.  Who will determine what is an 'improvement'
> and what is
> >> a total failure?  PLUG needs to grow up and harness the
> talents that
> >> we currently have in abundance.  Stop with these silly games
> >> pretending no one is running the show.
> >
> > Someone pays the domain renewal bill (if any); someone
> pays, or calls
> > a favor, with the location the box is hosted; someone has
> root on that
> > box.   Find those answers, and you have the throat to choke.
> >
> > Unhappy with those answers?  Can't figure it out?  Fork and
> > out-perform the incumbent.  Running code talks.  This is FOSS after
> > all.
> >
> > No slam on der Hans, or Lisa.  Running a LUG is hard;
> running it for
> > years and years is even harder
> >
> > Bring your own domain registration for a LUG, and I'll
> provide access
> > to a host for a virthost website, mailing list, etc on a
> box that has
> > in its past hosted Distrowatch, the Metro Detroit LUG, the
> Tampa LUG,
> > a couple of defunct LUGs, and the Central OH LUG
> (currently).  Others
> > as well, but I fergit.
> >
> > But kvetching about it and not acting is just pointless.
> >
> > -- Russ herrold
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