Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End

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Author: Joshua Zeidner
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Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
an interesting technology, not yet implemented for general public use:

http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~rb432/bergmair.cjb.net/htdocs/pub/towlingsteg-rep-inoff-web.www/node9.html

-jmz


On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes
<> wrote:
> :-)
>
> You guys rock. Reminds me of the early '90s and the cypherpunks list
> which introduced me to crypto for the masses :-).
> http://www.creativedestruction.com/archives/000933.html
> http://www.creativedestruction.com/archives/000937.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=fisa
> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=gak
> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=escrow
>
> I'm getting my pubkeys ready. There may be a market for new bumper sticker:
>
> old: Keep honking. I'm reloading
> new: Keep sniffing. I'm loading my key pairs.
>
> Wasn't there some talk of a PGP key signing or tutorial at an
> installfest some months back? I finished graduate school last month
> and am starting to come out of that shell.
>
> ymmv,
> C.G.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Joshua Zeidner <> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold <> wrote:
>>> VOIP will not shield your privacy from interception from NSA!
>>>
>>> End to end encryption is about the best one can currently do, other than
>>> ceasing all actions that need to be private in any place but in person.
>>>
>>> Anything with a PSTN trunk is switched to their centers (thanks Cisco).
>>> Anything that traverses the internet is part of current monitoring - data
>>> sampling. If they want to intercept your soft phone or VOIP calls that's
>>> all build into the monitoring model.
>>
>> Thats true... most world internet traffic goes through the US, so if
>> they are snooping then they have the ability to snoop anywhere. -jmz
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (503)754-4452 Blackberry || www.obnosis.com
>>> via USB PPP EDVO/CDMA on Dell Latitude PII - Kubuntu 7.10
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, keith smith <> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: keith smith <>
>>> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:14 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> That's pretty crazy stuff!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>> (520) 207-9877
>>> PHP Programmer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Joshua Zeidner <> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Joshua Zeidner <>
>>> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:03 PM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of
>>>> political participation but
>>> it should likley be done as a last resort
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF:
>>>>
>>> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09
>>>>
>>> https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6
>>>>
>>>> Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an
>>> option.
>>>>
>>>> There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested.
>>>> A couple friends of mine and are on there.
>>>
>>> you may want to watch this video before you go any further with that:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogtTQs8Kzw
>>>
>>> -jmz
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson
>>>
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