an interesting technology, not yet implemented for general public use: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~rb432/bergmair.cjb.net/htdocs/pub/towlingsteg-rep-inoff-web.www/node9.html -jmz On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes wrote: > :-) > > You guys rock. Reminds me of the early '90s and the cypherpunks list > which introduced me to crypto for the masses :-). > http://www.creativedestruction.com/archives/000933.html > http://www.creativedestruction.com/archives/000937.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=fisa > http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=gak > http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=escrow > > I'm getting my pubkeys ready. There may be a market for new bumper sticker: > > old: Keep honking. I'm reloading > new: Keep sniffing. I'm loading my key pairs. > > Wasn't there some talk of a PGP key signing or tutorial at an > installfest some months back? I finished graduate school last month > and am starting to come out of that shell. > > ymmv, > C.G. > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >>> VOIP will not shield your privacy from interception from NSA! >>> >>> End to end encryption is about the best one can currently do, other than >>> ceasing all actions that need to be private in any place but in person. >>> >>> Anything with a PSTN trunk is switched to their centers (thanks Cisco). >>> Anything that traverses the internet is part of current monitoring - data >>> sampling. If they want to intercept your soft phone or VOIP calls that's >>> all build into the monitoring model. >> >> Thats true... most world internet traffic goes through the US, so if >> they are snooping then they have the ability to snoop anywhere. -jmz >> >> >>> >>> >>> (503)754-4452 Blackberry || www.obnosis.com >>> via USB PPP EDVO/CDMA on Dell Latitude PII - Kubuntu 7.10 >>> >>> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, keith smith wrote: >>> >>> From: keith smith >>> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:14 PM >>> >>> >>> That's pretty crazy stuff!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> Keith Smith >>> (520) 207-9877 >>> PHP Programmer >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>> >>> From: Joshua Zeidner >>> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:03 PM >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes >>> wrote: >>>> I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of >>>> political participation but >>> it should likley be done as a last resort >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF: >>>> >>> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09 >>>> >>> https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6 >>>> >>>> Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an >>> option. >>>> >>>> There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested. >>>> A couple friends of mine and are on there. >>> >>> you may want to watch this video before you go any further with that: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogtTQs8Kzw >>> >>> -jmz >>> >>> -- >>> "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson >>> >>> - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >>> settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson >> >> - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > powerofprimes@gmail.com > Carlos Macedo Gomes > _sic itur ad astra_ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss