Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End

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Author: Joshua Zeidner
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To: obnosis, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold <> wrote:
> VOIP will not shield your privacy from interception from NSA!
>
> End to end encryption is about the best one can currently do, other than
> ceasing all actions that need to be private in any place but in person.
>
> Anything with a PSTN trunk is switched to their centers (thanks Cisco).
> Anything that traverses the internet is part of current monitoring - data
> sampling. If they want to intercept your soft phone or VOIP calls that's
> all build into the monitoring model.


Thats true... most world internet traffic goes through the US, so if
they are snooping then they have the ability to snoop anywhere. -jmz


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> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, keith smith <> wrote:
>
> From: keith smith <>
> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:14 PM
>
>
> That's pretty crazy stuff!!!!!!
>
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
> (520) 207-9877
> PHP Programmer
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> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Joshua Zeidner <> wrote:
>
> From: Joshua Zeidner <>
> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:03 PM
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes
> <> wrote:
>> I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of
>> political participation but
> it should likley be done as a last resort
>> :-)
>>
>> I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF:
>>
> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09
>>
> https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6
>>
>> Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an
> option.
>>
>> There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested.
>> A couple friends of mine and are on there.
>
> you may want to watch this video before you go any further with that:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogtTQs8Kzw
>
> -jmz
>
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