On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > VOIP will not shield your privacy from interception from NSA! > > End to end encryption is about the best one can currently do, other than > ceasing all actions that need to be private in any place but in person. > > Anything with a PSTN trunk is switched to their centers (thanks Cisco). > Anything that traverses the internet is part of current monitoring - data > sampling. If they want to intercept your soft phone or VOIP calls that's > all build into the monitoring model. Thats true... most world internet traffic goes through the US, so if they are snooping then they have the ability to snoop anywhere. -jmz > > > (503)754-4452 Blackberry || www.obnosis.com > via USB PPP EDVO/CDMA on Dell Latitude PII - Kubuntu 7.10 > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, keith smith wrote: > > From: keith smith > Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:14 PM > > > That's pretty crazy stuff!!!!!! > > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > (520) 207-9877 > PHP Programmer > > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > From: Joshua Zeidner > Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:03 PM > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes > wrote: >> I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of >> political participation but > it should likley be done as a last resort >> :-) >> >> I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF: >> > http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09 >> > https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6 >> >> Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an > option. >> >> There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested. >> A couple friends of mine and are on there. > > you may want to watch this video before you go any further with that: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogtTQs8Kzw > > -jmz > > -- > "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson > > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss