From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:
Stealing \Steal"ing\, n.
1. The act of taking feloniously the personal property of
another without his consent and knowledge; theft; larceny.
In what way am I depriving someone of an MP3 when I download it from
them? They still have it, they can still listen to it. Its not
stealing. It is something else entirely.
Basically what it comes down to is that people (artists, software
companies, movie studios, whatever) are going to have to learn a new
way to make a buck.
If we listened to people with your thought process, we'd still be
listening to the old paper tape piano things (whatever they were
called). The people that produced the tapes were really upset when
record players became available. IIRC they tried to get congress to
intervene.
People will find a new way to make their money.
On Dec 4, 2004, at 10:55 AM, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 02:10 -0800, Mike H wrote:
>> yep I totally agree. For some time now i've felt like this file
>> sharing
>> was wrong and I should stop. But it was hard to stop. thanks for
>> warner
>> bros for scaring me into it. I knew better than to do this. but let me
>> clear one thing up.
>> cox contacted me.
>> they emailed me advising me that i would lose my internet service
>> unless
>> i complied with the email
>> cox wanted me to contact the group complaining about my stealing their
>> movie so I thought to myself "even if i do email these people how do I
>> know that cox will be informed of my compliance before the 24 hour
>> notice of shutoff?" so i contacted cox to have them document in there
>> system that I had in fact emailed the party and that I have removed
>> the
>> material as ordered. So that was just to avoid any temporary
>> disconnection in service.
>> basically the manager at cox tech support advised me i will have no
>> problems and he made all the necessary documentation to keep my
>> service
>> form being shut off. he also advised me that they have a 3 strikes and
>> your out policy.
>> If your service is shutdown for abuse or whatever then after the third
>> time it's permanent. no more service for you.
>> fortunately this incident is not strike 1, that's from the ppl at cox
>> themselves.
>> i'm just glad it's over with, stealing is not in my nature so why
>> should
>> it be any different online. it isn't.
>> I posted this to hopefully make everyone aware that you can get caught
>> and really you should not be doing it at all. It's really no different
>> than going to the store and putting the dvd into your jacket pocket.
>>
>> so i will keep my collection of stolen music and movies, but won't
>> share
>> them and won't get anymore. that's the best compromise for me.
>>
>> any opinions on this?
> ----
> yeah - you need to get a little more maturity...but this isn't my
> concern.
>
> Generation X (and Y) has pretty much disregards the IP restrictions and
> this is an across the board cultural acceptance. I don't think it's
> important to finger point the blame, but we have to realize it. I know
> of a very young lawyer who has downloaded and burned copies of tons of
> music and movies and continually offers me copies and I keep suggesting
> to him that as a lawyer, he should know better.
>
> Since I grew up in the 60's and buying 45's and LP's was an important
> part of my life, I have no problem repurchasing my LP collection and
> new
> stuff on CD. Movies seem cheap enough to rent or buy so I have no
> reason
> to deal with the P2P stuff but I did install Limewire on a couple of my
> computers for my daughter to play with. Her activities were small scale
> but it's obvious that their generation doesn't think twice about it.
> Perhaps that's my generations fault for giving her the tools to do it.
>
> If you recognized that it was wrong, that was the time to stop. If you
> believe that those items in your possession are stolen, you should
> probably destroy them.
>
> That said - the peculiar thing about our culture is that universally,
> we
> all believe we are honest. Yet, we have no problem justifying the areas
> we choose to 'bend' the rules such as downloading music/movies,
> speeding, cheating paying income taxes, etc. It's best not to be too
> judgmental about other peoples activities and simply look inward to see
> how I can make myself a better citizen.
>
> Craig
>
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