The problem with the link was that it wrapped. Try adding the
"5&printer=1" to the end of the line, to make the whole thing:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=74&u=/cmp/20030910/tc_cmp/14700335&printer=1
George Toft wrote:
>Lee Einer wrote:
>
>
>>That link doesn't seem to work. Was this about the
>>MicroSoft-commissioned study that found Microsoft was cheaper than Linux
>>for some development tasks?
>>
>>R Melder at SPiN Internet Media wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=74&u=/cmp/20030910/tc_cmp/1470033
>>>5&printer=1
>>>
>>>Thought this might be entertaining.
>>>
>>>; )
>>>
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>
>Looks like apples and oranges to me.
>
>
>
>For those who didn't get the link to work:
>
>Microsoft Windows Is A Cheaper Development Environment Than Linux/J2EE,
>Analysts Say
>Wed Sep 10, 3:35 AM ET
>
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>Gregg Keizer , TechWeb News
>A pair of research firms on Tuesday armed Microsoft with more ammunition
>in its tussle with Linux (news - web sites), the open source operating
>system.
>
>According to a report released Tuesday by Forrester Research -- and
>commissioned by Microsoft -- both large and medium- sized businesses
>will find Microsoft's Windows a cheaper development environment than
>Linux.
>
>In its comparison of Windows and its .Net development tools against
>Linux and J2EE-based tools, Forrester found that large corporations
>developing a custom Web-based application using Windows will save 28.2
>percent to create the application, then maintain and support it for
>three years.
>
>A medium-sized firm should save approximately 25 percent if it relies on
>Windows and .Net rather than Linux and J2EE as its development and
>support environment, said John Rymer, a Forrester vice president, and
>one of the analysts who authored the report.
>
>The study was done by interviewing IT managers at a dozen organizations,
>seven of which use Windows, five which develop using J2EE on Linux
>platforms.
>
>The small size of the sample may give Linux supporters reason to
>question the findings, but Rymer defended his methodologies. "It's like
>reporting," he said. "After a while, you start hearing the same thing. I
>think we got a good average idea of costs and development time."
>
>The main drivers of the big differences in development costs, Rymer
>said, were due to the higher licensing costs of J2EE and databases
>sitting atop Linux, and the longer time necessary to develop the
>proposed applications in the J2EE/Linux environment.
>
>In the large enterprise (news - web sites) scenario, the licensing costs
>for J2EE tipped the financial scales at $208,567 for the BEA application
>servers, Oracle databases, and BEA development tools. Costs for the
>equivalent Microsoft licenses, however, would run only $52,591.
>Advantage Microsoft, to the tune of $155,976. That difference accounts
>for about a quarter of the cost savings Forrester claimed companies
>would see by going with the Redmond, Wash.-based developer's platform.
>
>The other factor is time: it takes businesses longer to develop and
>deploy custom Web-based applications using J2EE/Linux, on average three
>months longer. That translates into labor costs savings for Microsoft
>shops of $331,000, or about half of the .Net advantage.
>
>But Rymer cautions against taking his findings and making general
>degrees about Windows versus Linux.
>
>"Frankly, we're tired of these kind of broad statements," he said. "In
>the real world (news - Y! TV), there are different scenarios and skill
>bases and cultures. This only focuses on one scenario, admittedly a
>broadly-used one, but you can't use it to generalize."
>
>Michael Silver, an analyst with Gartner, agrees.
>
>Silver co-authored a report released Tuesday by Gartner on the return on
>investment (ROI) companies may see by migrating from Windows to Linux on
>the desktop.
>
>In his narrow-cast look at Windows versus Linux, Silver found advantages
>to both camps. "There are situations in which a move to Linux OS on the
>desktop will deliver ROI and does make sense," he said.
>
>On the other hand, those scenarios are quite narrow in scope. "Migrating
>desktops to Linux only makes sense in a very limited range of
>situations."
>
>Although Gartner's analysis showed that enterprises shifting to Linux
>can save $80 on hardware acquisition costs and an average of $74 per
>user per year on office productivity software compared to Microsoft's
>offerings, he noted that enterprises could see the same cost benefit
>simply by shifting from Microsoft Office to the Windows editions of
>Sun's StarOffice or the for-free OpenSource.org suite.
>
>"Enterprises need to separate the OS decision and the office
>productivity applications decision," he said. "Companies can move away
>from Microsoft Office and see some cost benefits, but keep Windows for
>the hundreds of other applications they use."
>
>In some instances, Silver said, Linux might be a good call. "Linux may
>merit a migration," he said, in situations where enterprises are
>thinking about moving employees who use a limited number of
>applications, such as data entry, call center, and other structured-task
>workers. And companies still relying on aging versions of Windows --
>such as Windows 95 and 98, which are unsupported and barely supported,
>respectively, by Microsoft -- will likely see a bigger return by
>shifting to Linux than firms which use the newer, and more reliable,
>Windows 2000 (news - web sites) and Windows XP (news - web sites).
>Silver noted that while Linux may have a lower up-front cost -- thanks
>to lighter hardware demands and a lower-priced client operating system
>-- that's not the whole story enterprises must consider.
>"Other costs, such as labor, training, and external services must be
>considered," he said.
>And there, Linux may not meet the needs of corporations, or give a good
>return on investment. "Linux support on the PC is the exception and not
>the rule, a challenge that an enterprise must consider when determining
>the future of its desktop OS."
>
>
>George
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