On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 11:14, Nancy Sollars wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sm" <sm@vis.nu>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Evolution on RedHat 7.2
>
>
> >
> > > I run RH7.2 and KDE. I have been down this road. I won't go there
> > > again. I have watched this thread hoping someone would have a
> > > solution because I would love to try Evolution.
> > >
> > > Evolution is Ximian's "killer app" and it is very tied to their
> > > desktop. It is beyond my skill to figure out how to run Evolution
> > > without running the Ximian desktop.
> > >
> > > I will stick with KDE the suite of "K" apps for now. They work well
> > > for me.
> > >
> >
> > I had the same feeling when I was trying the evolution betas. I had to
> > satisfy a million dependencies I normally didn't need on my KDE desktop.
>
> Youl always have dependencie issues using RPM its what RPM was made for ..
>
> > I got it working after about a day of work. And I must admit, it looked
> > good.
> >
> > Then a week later and KMail supported IMAP. What I needed with less
> > dependencies to watch over. The executive summary is nice, but nothing I
> > couldn't do (or in some cases, wasn't already doing) with other tools.
> >
> > Honestly, if you've seen my desktop, you'd know the last thing I need is
> > another app giving me extraneous information. I've just become *too* used
> > to knowing what the weather in space is like. At one point, I needed to
> > know that. :)
> >
> > Now, if I could only figure out how to get kmail to alert me to new
> > messages on my IMAP mailboxes, things would be great. :)
> >
> > And hey, there's other KDE people out there.. I thought I was alone. :)
> >
>
> I will agree that KDE looks nice ,, But yes there is a but .. its way to
> bloaty the thing bloody grows filling /tmp with mindless crap .. so not only
> does it install a bed of useless apps but also creates temp files/dir in
> /tmp .. I was quick to remove KDE when I saw this .. So who knows what KDE 2
> does .. its prolly capable to take over your whole desktop..
>
> I now use XFCE or the Amiga desktop ... installing only the apps I want and
> creating the menu system accordingly ..
>
> I found having a very lightweight X installation ment i could get top
> proformance out of oogle xine quake3 UT and Heretic 2 ...
>
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Thanks for the mindless crap call - some of us actually like the
bloatware - the feature glutted, leave junk all over /tmp (isn't that
what /tmp is for?) and isn't that at least partly the reason for
Microsoft's success? I have to tell you that this mindless crap allows
me to reply to this email in Evolution - which is the most exciting
'user' application I have seen in linux thus far but I have had
separation anxiety for Outlook 2000 for the few months I have been
forsaking my Windows machine for linux.
Top performance can be overrated - I primarily use my computer for email
and ssh to client computers etc in a terminal window so the weight of
bloatware isn't a concern to me at this point - hell, I'm using the
cheapest 8 megabyte video card ($ 24) and audio card ($ 12) that I
could find at Fry's. I thought it was an incredible step up from a 4mb
video card and no sound.
Lastly, I would venture that the same people that struggle with solving
dependencies in rpm would also struggle with the entire setup of apt-get
too so I fail to see the distinction.
Craig
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