On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 11:14, Nancy Sollars wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sm" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:40 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Evolution on RedHat 7.2 > > > > > > > I run RH7.2 and KDE. I have been down this road. I won't go there > > > again. I have watched this thread hoping someone would have a > > > solution because I would love to try Evolution. > > > > > > Evolution is Ximian's "killer app" and it is very tied to their > > > desktop. It is beyond my skill to figure out how to run Evolution > > > without running the Ximian desktop. > > > > > > I will stick with KDE the suite of "K" apps for now. They work well > > > for me. > > > > > > > I had the same feeling when I was trying the evolution betas. I had to > > satisfy a million dependencies I normally didn't need on my KDE desktop. > > Youl always have dependencie issues using RPM its what RPM was made for .. > > > I got it working after about a day of work. And I must admit, it looked > > good. > > > > Then a week later and KMail supported IMAP. What I needed with less > > dependencies to watch over. The executive summary is nice, but nothing I > > couldn't do (or in some cases, wasn't already doing) with other tools. > > > > Honestly, if you've seen my desktop, you'd know the last thing I need is > > another app giving me extraneous information. I've just become *too* used > > to knowing what the weather in space is like. At one point, I needed to > > know that. :) > > > > Now, if I could only figure out how to get kmail to alert me to new > > messages on my IMAP mailboxes, things would be great. :) > > > > And hey, there's other KDE people out there.. I thought I was alone. :) > > > > I will agree that KDE looks nice ,, But yes there is a but .. its way to > bloaty the thing bloody grows filling /tmp with mindless crap .. so not only > does it install a bed of useless apps but also creates temp files/dir in > /tmp .. I was quick to remove KDE when I saw this .. So who knows what KDE 2 > does .. its prolly capable to take over your whole desktop.. > > I now use XFCE or the Amiga desktop ... installing only the apps I want and > creating the menu system accordingly .. > > I found having a very lightweight X installation ment i could get top > proformance out of oogle xine quake3 UT and Heretic 2 ... > ----- Thanks for the mindless crap call - some of us actually like the bloatware - the feature glutted, leave junk all over /tmp (isn't that what /tmp is for?) and isn't that at least partly the reason for Microsoft's success? I have to tell you that this mindless crap allows me to reply to this email in Evolution - which is the most exciting 'user' application I have seen in linux thus far but I have had separation anxiety for Outlook 2000 for the few months I have been forsaking my Windows machine for linux. Top performance can be overrated - I primarily use my computer for email and ssh to client computers etc in a terminal window so the weight of bloatware isn't a concern to me at this point - hell, I'm using the cheapest 8 megabyte video card ($ 24) and audio card ($ 12) that I could find at Fry's. I thought it was an incredible step up from a 4mb video card and no sound. Lastly, I would venture that the same people that struggle with solving dependencies in rpm would also struggle with the entire setup of apt-get too so I fail to see the distinction. Craig