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Author: trent shipley
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Subject: Re: Vocational Rehab
Attention deficit disorder and software testing don't mix.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:18 PM Kevin Fries <> wrote:

> Hey Trent,
>
> One of the best Network Admins I have ever worked with had Asperger's. So
> I know it can be done... But it has some serious challenges.
>
> Most web developers will have more interaction with a wider group of
> people than the average programmer in my opinion. Also, good HTML code is
> far more subjective than other types of programming. I wonder who diverted
> you away from coding... IMHO, software coding is a much, much better option.
>
> Coders generally deal with tickets that deal with functional requirements,
> and when done right, acceptance criteria (need a new method on the xxyyzz
> controller that takes two parameters and makes the following changes to the
> customers account)... Web developers generally work from less focused
> requirements that if feature focused (we need a new page added to the web
> page to generate a request for our sales department to contact them)
>
> Finally, whoever told you a programmer, especially a 50+ job changer,
> needs a degree to be a software developer? I have worked in many different
> aspects of IT, I program in Ruby, Python, Java, and Node, (plus if you get
> me drunk enough, I'll admit to Go), I have worked as a Network Admin, and
> now work supporting developers in a web SaaS company as a DevOps Engineer.
> And I have no degree.
>
> I think your advisor needs to focus more on making you successful, and
> less on filling some companies whole. If I were helping you, I would take
> your unique attributes, and try and find you a Jr Developer position, or
> even better, Q/A and Testing. Software testing would also play very well
> to tour autistic nature.
>
> Hope this was of some help.
> Kevin Fries
> On Oct 16, 2017 11:09 PM, "trent shipley" <> wrote:
>
>> Dear plug-discuss,
>>
>> I currently work as a telephone customer service representative. There
>> are no sales, but I still hate it, it pays poorly, and I'm bad at it.
>>
>> I have three disabilities, I'm bipolar (well treated with medication),
>> autistic (high functioning), and I have attention deficit disorder. (Also,
>> I'm 50, which is effectively another disability.) Three disabilities is
>> enough to qualify for Vocational Rehabilitation services from the State.
>>
>> I like programming. I'd like to be in IT, I think. I had a couple years
>> of experience back between 2000 and 2002, mostly writing SQL queries in
>> Oracle. I have a BA with majors in history (3.5 GPA) and math (2.25 GPA),
>> an MA in anthropology, and unsuccessful attempt at a PhD in anthropology,
>> an MS in information management, and a community college Certificate of
>> Completion in computer programming (CIS department, not CS).
>>
>> There are two major barriers to my getting a job as a programmer. First,
>> it seems to involve way too much interaction with people for an autistic
>> person. Second, it requires a four year degree and internships. Voc Rehab
>> doesn't want to pay for it, and I can't pay for it myself.
>>
>> So the option of web developer came up. The Labor Department's web site
>> said you could qualify to enter work as a web developer with a post-high
>> school certificate. Unfortunately, I suspect that being a web developer
>> requires even more people contact than being a programmer.
>>
>> Nevertheless, my assignment for the week is to talk to two web
>> developers. I'd appreciate any contacts list members could provide that
>> would be willing to provide a 20 minute interview about their work, either
>> web developers or programmers with less than a BS.
>>
>> Regards and thanks,
>>
>> Trent Shipley
>> (junk e-mail account)
>>
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