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Author: Eric Oyen
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: accessible web-authoring system
I would like to go myself, but I am in need of a ride from the west side. There are just times when I hate living so far away from the center of things.

-eric
From the central office of the Technomage Guild, Dept of monorail development.

On May 24, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:

> So I actually work with Drupal and have some experience wrt accessibility at the University. I'll be at coffee hour tomorrow if anyone wants to chat more about Drupal and accessibility - some tools for WCAG compliance - contrast tools (how they are not working great) and what we are doing at the W3c wrt accessibility and how you can get involved.
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:30 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
> Am 19. May, 2017 schwätzte der.hans so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> and another device popped up.
>
> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/6NH2VfeutQ1
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
>
> Am 29. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> a post about a real-time braille converter from MIT reminds me that I
> didn't report back on the demo for the accessible web-authoring tool.
>
> Here's the braille converter post.
>
> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/eLygbwBhra2
>
> The demo ended up using WordPress and was well received. The committee was
> impressed, but it will be some time before an official response is given.
>
> Thanks again for the feedback. It was quite helpful.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> well, here is a suggestion from one of the blind users of Linux who does a lot of web authoring.. Der Hands, you got this one?
>
> -eric
> from the central office of the Technomage Huild, Datasphere projects office
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: accessible web-authoring system
> Date: April 29, 2017 4:20:51 AM MST
> To:
> Reply-To:
>
> Tony Baechler here. I'm sure others will chime in, but here are my thoughts:
>
> 1. The most accessible is plain, static HTML. Obviously not practical for large sites, but for a few pages, it's good enough.
>
> 2. WordPress is the most popular. It's generally very accessible. There are things which could be made better, but it's good enough to design decent sites. I ran a podcast with it.
>
> 3. Drupal is also very good, but the latest major release (8.0.X) is very difficult to use and far from accessible unless I missed something obvious. I had it running on a server and it was so bad that I gave up. 7.X should be better, but will reach end of life in a year or two and only gets bug and security fixes.
>
> Joomla is very inaccessible and should absolutely be avoided. I couldn't do anything with it, but that was a long time ago. The key is if the admin interface is accessible or not. I would go with WordPress due to the huge number of themes, frequent updates and overall decent accessibility.
>
> Another option is wiki software. There are a lot of wiki packages out there. I liked ikiwiki when I looked at it. It obviously depends on the site you're designing. Of the above, I think only ikiwiki is fully accessible with a text browser, but WordPress is tolerable. You can do most functions with wp-cli if you like the command line. Drupal has drush, but I couldn't get it to work. WordPress is much easier to upgrade and can do minor updates itself.
>
> On 4/28/2017 3:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> hey guys,
> I forwarded this over from the Phoenix Linux Users Group. Perhaps one of us can help out?
>
> -eric
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "der.hans" <>
> Subject: accessible web-authoring system
> Date: April 28, 2017 12:32:48 PM MST
> To: quatsch <>
> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
>
> moin moin,
>
> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software web-authoring
> system?
>
> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and mental
> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation.
>
> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help, but I have
> no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is demos from some
> blind guys using emacs for their own infrastructure. Amazing, but not the
> first thing to suggest.
>
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