Building a Linux Computer?

Wed May 23 10:27:41 MST 2018

On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote:
>The Evo 960 is an NVMe drive.
>

Yes, and that is what I said below "moved to an m.2 nvme drive". I was
just agreeing with you that you can see a real boost when doing something
with heavy disk IO.

>The part of the confusion around M.2 is that it will support 3 different
>connections. PCIe x2 PCIe x4 and Sata. and you have to look at the "key"
>locations to verify what is what.
>
>Puget systems has a nice KB on de-obfuscating this
>https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/
>
>On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Snitselaar <dev at snitselaar.org>
>wrote:
>
>> On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>>> In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to
>>> load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are
>>> crazy fast.
>>>
>>>
>> Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various
>> branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when
>> I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD.  I have and SSD in my desktop and it
>>>> boots
>>>> much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe.  They are not totally the same,
>>>> however I think they are close enough.  I think some of the performance
>>>> is
>>>> based on who made the NVMe or SSD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe.  They are about the
>>>>> same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system.
>>>>> They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so
>>>>> they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer.
>>>>> They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at
>>>>> it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough
>>>>> to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle
>>>>> itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and
>>>>> the same thing can be said of the GPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get
>>>>> new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost.
>>>>> Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for
>>>>> making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so
>>>>> crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket
>>>>> compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following
>>>>>> road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video
>>>>>> card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> something that had decent resolution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work
>>>>>> /shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-
>>>>>> 15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external
>>>>>> mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches
>>>>>> each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for
>>>>>> 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share
>>>>>> utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and
>>>>>> play so I can use all it's features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen.
>>>>>> Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is
>>>>>> also mobile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now this configuration is what fits my needs.  What are your needs?
>>>>>> Are
>>>>>> you editing images or videos?  Are you a developer? Or are you
>>>>>> researching
>>>>>> Linux, or is your research about external things?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3
>>>>>> and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an
>>>>>> external
>>>>>> backup drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale :
>>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two cheap used laptop running these.  Great performance and as I
>>>>>> recall they have a 5 year warrantee.  I use one as a Linux web server
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> testing.  The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load
>>>>>> Mint on
>>>>>> it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything
>>>>>> external, using mostly free stuff.  I do some video editing so I may
>>>>>> need a
>>>>>> little more power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am planing to build a Linux computer.  I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old
>>>>>>> Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer.   So "I will be
>>>>>>> going where where others do not dare to go."  I want a VPN on it
>>>>>>> because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now
>>>>>>> have. I want a 64bit OS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux.  I
>>>>>>> need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use.  What would you do if you had
>>>>>>> to build your own Linux computer from scratch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike Enriquez
>>>>>>>
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>A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>
>Stephen