Building a Linux Computer?

Wed May 23 10:07:48 MST 2018

The Evo 960 is an NVMe drive.

The part of the confusion around M.2 is that it will support 3 different
connections. PCIe x2 PCIe x4 and Sata. and you have to look at the "key"
locations to verify what is what.

Puget systems has a nice KB on de-obfuscating this
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Snitselaar <dev at snitselaar.org>
wrote:

> On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
>> In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to
>> load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are
>> crazy fast.
>>
>>
> Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various
> branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when
> I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960).
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD.  I have and SSD in my desktop and it
>>> boots
>>> much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe.  They are not totally the same,
>>> however I think they are close enough.  I think some of the performance
>>> is
>>> based on who made the NVMe or SSD.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>
>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe.  They are about the
>>>> same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system.
>>>> They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so
>>>> they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer.
>>>> They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at
>>>> it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough
>>>> to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle
>>>> itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and
>>>> the same thing can be said of the GPU.
>>>>
>>>> My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get
>>>> new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost.
>>>> Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for
>>>> making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so
>>>> crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket
>>>> compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following
>>>>> road.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video
>>>>> card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go
>>>>> with
>>>>> something that had decent resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work
>>>>> /shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-
>>>>> 15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external
>>>>> mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches
>>>>> each.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for
>>>>> 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share
>>>>> utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and
>>>>> play so I can use all it's features.
>>>>>
>>>>> At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen.
>>>>> Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is
>>>>> also mobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now this configuration is what fits my needs.  What are your needs?
>>>>> Are
>>>>> you editing images or videos?  Are you a developer? Or are you
>>>>> researching
>>>>> Linux, or is your research about external things?
>>>>>
>>>>> For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3
>>>>> and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an
>>>>> external
>>>>> backup drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale :
>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676
>>>>>
>>>>> I have two cheap used laptop running these.  Great performance and as I
>>>>> recall they have a 5 year warrantee.  I use one as a Linux web server
>>>>> for
>>>>> testing.  The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load
>>>>> Mint on
>>>>> it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything
>>>>> external, using mostly free stuff.  I do some video editing so I may
>>>>> need a
>>>>> little more power.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am planing to build a Linux computer.  I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old
>>>>>> Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer.   So "I will be
>>>>>> going where where others do not dare to go."  I want a VPN on it
>>>>>> because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now
>>>>>> have. I want a 64bit OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux.  I
>>>>>> need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use.  What would you do if you had
>>>>>> to build your own Linux computer from scratch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Enriquez
>>>>>>
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>> Stephen
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