Building a Linux Computer?

Wed May 23 11:09:58 MST 2018

On Wed May 23 18, Jerry Snitselaar wrote:
>On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>The Evo 960 is an NVMe drive.
>>
>
>Yes, and that is what I said below "moved to an m.2 nvme drive". I was
>just agreeing with you that you can see a real boost when doing something
>with heavy disk IO.
>
>>The part of the confusion around M.2 is that it will support 3 different
>>connections. PCIe x2 PCIe x4 and Sata. and you have to look at the "key"
>>locations to verify what is what.
>>
>>Puget systems has a nice KB on de-obfuscating this
>>https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/

Reading that again, yes people should make sure they are getting something
that uses pcie and not sata.

>>
>>On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Snitselaar <dev at snitselaar.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>>>In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to
>>>>load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are
>>>>crazy fast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various
>>>branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when
>>>I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD.  I have and SSD in my desktop and it
>>>>>boots
>>>>>much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe.  They are not totally the same,
>>>>>however I think they are close enough.  I think some of the performance
>>>>>is
>>>>>based on who made the NVMe or SSD.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe.  They are about the
>>>>>>same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system.
>>>>>>They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so
>>>>>>they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer.
>>>>>>They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at
>>>>>>it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough
>>>>>>to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle
>>>>>>itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and
>>>>>>the same thing can be said of the GPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get
>>>>>>new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost.
>>>>>>Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for
>>>>>>making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so
>>>>>>crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket
>>>>>>compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following
>>>>>>>road.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video
>>>>>>>card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>something that had decent resolution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work
>>>>>>>/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-
>>>>>>>15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external
>>>>>>>mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches
>>>>>>>each.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for
>>>>>>>4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share
>>>>>>>utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and
>>>>>>>play so I can use all it's features.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen.
>>>>>>>Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is
>>>>>>>also mobile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now this configuration is what fits my needs.  What are your needs?
>>>>>>>Are
>>>>>>>you editing images or videos?  Are you a developer? Or are you
>>>>>>>researching
>>>>>>>Linux, or is your research about external things?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3
>>>>>>>and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an
>>>>>>>external
>>>>>>>backup drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale :
>>>>>>>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have two cheap used laptop running these.  Great performance and as I
>>>>>>>recall they have a 5 year warrantee.  I use one as a Linux web server
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>testing.  The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load
>>>>>>>Mint on
>>>>>>>it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything
>>>>>>>external, using mostly free stuff.  I do some video editing so I may
>>>>>>>need a
>>>>>>>little more power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am planing to build a Linux computer.  I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old
>>>>>>>>Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer.   So "I will be
>>>>>>>>going where where others do not dare to go."  I want a VPN on it
>>>>>>>>because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now
>>>>>>>>have. I want a 64bit OS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux.  I
>>>>>>>>need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use.  What would you do if you had
>>>>>>>>to build your own Linux computer from scratch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for your input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Enriquez
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>>>>
>>>>Stephen
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>>A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>>rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>>Stephen