what sort of use cases/memory_needs/etc (was RE: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!)

[Michael Butash]

On the note of memory, I get home after being on the road for a while
(1mo), and notice my desktop is wonky, refresh issues, but works.  I find
Cinnamon consuming some 91g of my ram now.  Funny how that works, guess
time to upgrade arch finally.

Most days I wish compositing in desktops would go away, it is more trouble
than it is worth.

-mb

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Jones <retro64xyz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I run i3wm, luakit, discord, dropbox, and owncloud. Sometimes cmus, mutt,
> or firebird.
>
> I use about 5.9gb of my 32gb ram during normal usage. I don't keep more
> than 3 to 5 tabs open on average in luakit.
>
> Things don't usually pop off until I start using my system for work.
>
> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Matt Graham <mhgraham at crow202.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-09-06 13:48, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
> >> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his
> >> computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource
> >> user!
> >
> > It's *usually* not that bad/high.  Building one particular Android
> project causes this older machine (16G, 2 core i5, 500G SSD), to be almost
> unusable for as long as it takes all the java to compile/link/build.
> Ordinary Android projects and standard browsing, mail clients, apache, and
> so forth run fine.  I don't know what precisely they did to make that
> project be an enormous hog.  It's not even particularly complicated.
> >
> >> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum
> >> required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he
> >> didn't exactly say that, but it was implied)
> >
> > I probably have fewer tabs open than almost anyone.  9-15 usually.
> >
> > Steve Litt wrote:
> >> Firefox is a total pig. Most other browsers tie up much less
> >> resources, especially with a lot of open tabs, especially with
> >> challenging javascript encumbered sites.
> >> Also, IMHO when you start to see your browser(s) run slowly, it's
> >> time to start closing tabs. If you have a tab that you're for sure
> >> going to have to have later, bookmark it.
> >
> > Yes, pretty much.  I find that closing tabs helps, but firefox is a
> collection of code parts written by the lowest bidder and flying in
> extremely close formation around a memory leak.  I try to restart it every
> day, which seems to work.  And I'd guess that people use tabs instead of
> bookmarks because they retain approximately where you were on a page (good
> for really long pages), and there's less commitment.
> >
> > Aaron Jones wrote:
> >> Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. [...] thanks to bloat and Lennart
> >> Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte
> >> ssd just to be effective.  The future is here ladies and gents...
> >> and it is gloriously unoptimized.
> >
> > Modern programmers don't seem to care about optimizing things.
> Curiously enough, KDE 5 is fairly snappy for me on a machine with only 8G.
> Opening a link with gwenview in a dir that contained 17000 links to other
> images pegged the CPU for a while as it generated thumbnails for all the
> links and preloaded a bunch of them.  I'm not sure how often people do that
> sort of thing--it was more of a "what happens if I stress this program out
> a lot?" than anything.
> >
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