what sort of use cases/memory_needs/etc (was RE: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!)

[Aaron Jones]

I run i3wm, luakit, discord, dropbox, and owncloud. Sometimes cmus, mutt, or firebird. 

I use about 5.9gb of my 32gb ram during normal usage. I don't keep more than 3 to 5 tabs open on average in luakit. 

Things don't usually pop off until I start using my system for work. 

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Matt Graham <mhgraham at crow202.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-09-06 13:48, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
>> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his
>> computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource
>> user!
> 
> It's *usually* not that bad/high.  Building one particular Android project causes this older machine (16G, 2 core i5, 500G SSD), to be almost unusable for as long as it takes all the java to compile/link/build.  Ordinary Android projects and standard browsing, mail clients, apache, and so forth run fine.  I don't know what precisely they did to make that project be an enormous hog.  It's not even particularly complicated.
> 
>> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum
>> required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he
>> didn't exactly say that, but it was implied)
> 
> I probably have fewer tabs open than almost anyone.  9-15 usually.
> 
> Steve Litt wrote:
>> Firefox is a total pig. Most other browsers tie up much less
>> resources, especially with a lot of open tabs, especially with
>> challenging javascript encumbered sites.
>> Also, IMHO when you start to see your browser(s) run slowly, it's
>> time to start closing tabs. If you have a tab that you're for sure
>> going to have to have later, bookmark it.
> 
> Yes, pretty much.  I find that closing tabs helps, but firefox is a collection of code parts written by the lowest bidder and flying in extremely close formation around a memory leak.  I try to restart it every day, which seems to work.  And I'd guess that people use tabs instead of bookmarks because they retain approximately where you were on a page (good for really long pages), and there's less commitment.
> 
> Aaron Jones wrote:
>> Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. [...] thanks to bloat and Lennart
>> Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte
>> ssd just to be effective.  The future is here ladies and gents...
>> and it is gloriously unoptimized.
> 
> Modern programmers don't seem to care about optimizing things.  Curiously enough, KDE 5 is fairly snappy for me on a machine with only 8G.  Opening a link with gwenview in a dir that contained 17000 links to other images pegged the CPU for a while as it generated thumbnails for all the links and preloaded a bunch of them.  I'm not sure how often people do that sort of thing--it was more of a "what happens if I stress this program out a lot?" than anything.
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