<div dir="ltr">On the note of memory, I get home after being on the road for a while (1mo), and notice my desktop is wonky, refresh issues, but works. I find Cinnamon consuming some 91g of my ram now. Funny how that works, guess time to upgrade arch finally.<div><br></div><div>Most days I wish compositing in desktops would go away, it is more trouble than it is worth.</div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:retro64xyz@gmail.com" target="_blank">retro64xyz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I run i3wm, luakit, discord, dropbox, and owncloud. Sometimes cmus, mutt, or firebird.<br>
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I use about 5.9gb of my 32gb ram during normal usage. I don't keep more than 3 to 5 tabs open on average in luakit.<br>
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Things don't usually pop off until I start using my system for work.<br>
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> On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Matt Graham <<a href="mailto:mhgraham@crow202.org">mhgraham@crow202.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 2017-09-06 13:48, Carruth, Rusty wrote:<br>
>> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his<br>
>> computer. And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource<br>
>> user!<br>
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> It's *usually* not that bad/high. Building one particular Android project causes this older machine (16G, 2 core i5, 500G SSD), to be almost unusable for as long as it takes all the java to compile/link/build. Ordinary Android projects and standard browsing, mail clients, apache, and so forth run fine. I don't know what precisely they did to make that project be an enormous hog. It's not even particularly complicated.<br>
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>> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum<br>
>> required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he<br>
>> didn't exactly say that, but it was implied)<br>
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> I probably have fewer tabs open than almost anyone. 9-15 usually.<br>
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> Steve Litt wrote:<br>
>> Firefox is a total pig. Most other browsers tie up much less<br>
>> resources, especially with a lot of open tabs, especially with<br>
>> challenging javascript encumbered sites.<br>
>> Also, IMHO when you start to see your browser(s) run slowly, it's<br>
>> time to start closing tabs. If you have a tab that you're for sure<br>
>> going to have to have later, bookmark it.<br>
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> Yes, pretty much. I find that closing tabs helps, but firefox is a collection of code parts written by the lowest bidder and flying in extremely close formation around a memory leak. I try to restart it every day, which seems to work. And I'd guess that people use tabs instead of bookmarks because they retain approximately where you were on a page (good for really long pages), and there's less commitment.<br>
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> Aaron Jones wrote:<br>
>> Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. [...] thanks to bloat and Lennart<br>
>> Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte<br>
>> ssd just to be effective. The future is here ladies and gents...<br>
>> and it is gloriously unoptimized.<br>
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> Modern programmers don't seem to care about optimizing things. Curiously enough, KDE 5 is fairly snappy for me on a machine with only 8G. Opening a link with gwenview in a dir that contained 17000 links to other images pegged the CPU for a while as it generated thumbnails for all the links and preloaded a bunch of them. I'm not sure how often people do that sort of thing--it was more of a "what happens if I stress this program out a lot?" than anything.<br>
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