OT: Java vs PHP

[Kevin Fries]

One word... Bundler

Kevin
On Jan 20, 2013 3:56 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <
Bryan.ONeal at theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> Also gem management can be a pain for dispersed development and operations
> teams.
> On Jan 20, 2013 3:53 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <bryan at theonealandassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rails is fine until you need to horizontal scale. Java is a dream for
>> that.
>> On Jan 20, 2013 2:56 PM, "Kevin Fries" <kevin at fries-biro.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For what you describe...
>>>
>>> If it were me doing it.  I would be looking first to Rails, and a
>>> secondary at Java.
>>>
>>> This is exactly in the wheelhouse of Rails and Django.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> On Jan 20, 2013 2:30 PM, "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I need to upgrade an ecommerce site that serves a virtual company.  It
>>>> actually does more than ecommerce.  None of us are in the same community.
>>>> We are spread to the winds.  So we rely on the web to make it happen.  Our
>>>> current solution was written in PHP 4 by someone else.  I upgrade it to PHP
>>>> 5 about 4 years ago. It is full of patches, some old code and some new.
>>>> Part is MVC and other parts have HTML and PHP mixed together with DB code.
>>>> It is time to do a complete makeover and add a ton of functionality.  I've
>>>> been looking at CodeIgniter for the project.  However Java has jumped up on
>>>> my radar again.  I say again, because I have studied and played with Java
>>>> multiple times over the past 10 or 12 years.
>>>>
>>>> As I think about this, I think we can use Java to do the web app, and
>>>> potentially create a desktop app to allow the operations folks to have
>>>> access with an app that runs on their Win or MAC PC's.  Potentially maybe
>>>> even a smart device app.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts are always appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Sun, 1/20/13, Bryan O'Neal
>>>> <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Java vs PHP
>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>>> Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013, 1:38 PM
>>>>
>>>> The question I have is what you are doing. If it is small with few hits
>>>> and non stateful data use PHP or even rails. If you are doing an massively
>>>> scaled ecommerce site then you use java. It is a matter of which does what
>>>> better.  As for the individual thinking java was client side, I suggest
>>>> that perhaps you are thinking java script not java. Java is server side and
>>>> processed tomcat or jboss.
>>>> Personal I like java :)
>>>> On Jan 20, 2013 12:24 PM, "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am in the process of planning a web project.  I'm thinking possibly
>>>> using Java.  To this point I have done all my web projects using PHP.  I
>>>> know there will be a learning curve.
>>>>
>>>> My main question is the availability of Java programmers.  It seems
>>>> there is a lot of PHP talent available for PHP projects.  I like that there
>>>> is a lot of availability of PHP programmer because that makes my apps
>>>> supportable if I move on or am otherwise not available.
>>>>
>>>> I have not met a lot of Java programmers, so I assume they are not
>>>> available the same way PHP programmers are.  In other words I think I can
>>>> visit Gang Plank HQ and find a hand full of PHP programmers that I would
>>>> fee good about pulling into a project.  I'm not sure I can say the same
>>>> with Java programmers, however I have not paid much attention when it comes
>>>> to Java programmers.
>>>>
>>>> You thoughts are much appreciated!!
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Keith Smith
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