<p>One word... Bundler</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 20, 2013 3:56 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <<a href="mailto:Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com">Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Also gem management can be a pain for dispersed development and operations teams.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 20, 2013 3:53 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <<a href="mailto:bryan@theonealandassociates.com" target="_blank">bryan@theonealandassociates.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Rails is fine until you need to horizontal scale. Java is a dream for that.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 20, 2013 2:56 PM, "Kevin Fries" <<a href="mailto:kevin@fries-biro.com" target="_blank">kevin@fries-biro.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>For what you describe...</p>
<p>If it were me doing it. I would be looking first to Rails, and a secondary at Java.</p>
<p>This is exactly in the wheelhouse of Rails and Django.</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 20, 2013 2:30 PM, "keith smith" <<a href="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com" target="_blank">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit"><br>I need to upgrade an ecommerce site that serves a virtual company. It actually does more than ecommerce. None of us are in the same community. We are spread to the winds. So we rely on the web to make it happen. Our current solution was written in PHP 4 by someone else. I upgrade it to PHP 5 about 4 years ago. It is full of patches, some old code and some new. Part is MVC and other parts have HTML and PHP mixed together with DB code. It is time to do a complete makeover and add a ton of functionality. I've been looking at CodeIgniter for the project. However Java has jumped up on my radar again. I say again, because I have studied and played with Java multiple times over the past 10 or 12 years. <br>
<br>As I think about this, I think we can use Java to do the web app, and potentially create a
desktop app to allow the operations folks to have access with an app that runs on their Win or MAC PC's. Potentially maybe even a smart device app. <br><br>Any thoughts are always appreciated.<br><br>------------------------<br>
Keith Smith<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 1/20/13, Bryan O'Neal <i><Bryan.ONeal@TheONealAndAssociates.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>
From: Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal@TheONealAndAssociates.com><br>Subject: Re: OT: Java vs PHP<br>To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>><br>
Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013, 1:38 PM<br><br><div><p dir="ltr">The question I have is what you are doing. If it is small with few hits and non stateful data use PHP or even rails. If you are doing an massively scaled ecommerce site then you use java. It is a matter of which does what better. As for the individual thinking java was client side, I suggest that perhaps you are thinking java script not java. Java is server side and processed tomcat or jboss.<br>
Personal I like java :)</p>
<div>On Jan 20, 2013 12:24 PM, "keith smith" <<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com" target="_blank">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit" valign="top"><br>Hi,<br><br>I am in the process of planning a web project. I'm thinking possibly using Java. To this point I have done all my web projects using PHP. I know there will be a learning curve.<br>
<br>My main question is the availability of Java programmers. It seems there is a lot of PHP talent available for PHP projects. I like that there is a lot of availability of PHP programmer because that makes my apps supportable if I move on or am otherwise not available. <br>
<br>I have not met a lot of Java programmers, so I assume they are not available the same way PHP programmers are. In other words I think I can visit Gang Plank HQ and find a hand full of PHP programmers that I would fee good about pulling into a project. I'm not sure I can say the same with Java programmers, however I have not paid much attention when
it comes to Java programmers. <br><br>You thoughts are much appreciated!! <br><br>------------------------<br>
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