OT: Java vs PHP

[Bryan O'Neal]

Also gem management can be a pain for dispersed development and operations
teams.
On Jan 20, 2013 3:53 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <bryan at theonealandassociates.com>
wrote:

> Rails is fine until you need to horizontal scale. Java is a dream for that.
> On Jan 20, 2013 2:56 PM, "Kevin Fries" <kevin at fries-biro.com> wrote:
>
>> For what you describe...
>>
>> If it were me doing it.  I would be looking first to Rails, and a
>> secondary at Java.
>>
>> This is exactly in the wheelhouse of Rails and Django.
>>
>> Kevin
>> On Jan 20, 2013 2:30 PM, "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I need to upgrade an ecommerce site that serves a virtual company.  It
>>> actually does more than ecommerce.  None of us are in the same community.
>>> We are spread to the winds.  So we rely on the web to make it happen.  Our
>>> current solution was written in PHP 4 by someone else.  I upgrade it to PHP
>>> 5 about 4 years ago. It is full of patches, some old code and some new.
>>> Part is MVC and other parts have HTML and PHP mixed together with DB code.
>>> It is time to do a complete makeover and add a ton of functionality.  I've
>>> been looking at CodeIgniter for the project.  However Java has jumped up on
>>> my radar again.  I say again, because I have studied and played with Java
>>> multiple times over the past 10 or 12 years.
>>>
>>> As I think about this, I think we can use Java to do the web app, and
>>> potentially create a desktop app to allow the operations folks to have
>>> access with an app that runs on their Win or MAC PC's.  Potentially maybe
>>> even a smart device app.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts are always appreciated.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Sun, 1/20/13, Bryan O'Neal
>>> <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Java vs PHP
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>> Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013, 1:38 PM
>>>
>>> The question I have is what you are doing. If it is small with few hits
>>> and non stateful data use PHP or even rails. If you are doing an massively
>>> scaled ecommerce site then you use java. It is a matter of which does what
>>> better.  As for the individual thinking java was client side, I suggest
>>> that perhaps you are thinking java script not java. Java is server side and
>>> processed tomcat or jboss.
>>> Personal I like java :)
>>> On Jan 20, 2013 12:24 PM, "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am in the process of planning a web project.  I'm thinking possibly
>>> using Java.  To this point I have done all my web projects using PHP.  I
>>> know there will be a learning curve.
>>>
>>> My main question is the availability of Java programmers.  It seems
>>> there is a lot of PHP talent available for PHP projects.  I like that there
>>> is a lot of availability of PHP programmer because that makes my apps
>>> supportable if I move on or am otherwise not available.
>>>
>>> I have not met a lot of Java programmers, so I assume they are not
>>> available the same way PHP programmers are.  In other words I think I can
>>> visit Gang Plank HQ and find a hand full of PHP programmers that I would
>>> fee good about pulling into a project.  I'm not sure I can say the same
>>> with Java programmers, however I have not paid much attention when it comes
>>> to Java programmers.
>>>
>>> You thoughts are much appreciated!!
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
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