ide-eide

Sun Nov 20 01:06:28 MST 2011

My computer (IBM NetVista was produced sometime between 2000 and 2002.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_NetVista)

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an old ed 120 gb drive. Only reason I don't use it is because its
> noisy as hell.
>
> In this case I would really look into a small hardware update if you can
> as your hitting a limit for replacement availability.
>
> And if you get a new Seagate or wd drive (retail not OEM) you can usually
> get some tools to sidestep some of those limits. But if the hardware can
> see it Linux will use it.
> On Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> how about this drive:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM
>>>
>>> it is only 80 gb. Is that too big?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably won't
>>>> boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing larger
>>>> disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and
>>>> it would see more of it... is there a work around?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <1.jim.march at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do
>>>>> IDE/PATA or SATA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a desktop-class
>>>>> drive (3.5").  BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, esp. in terms of
>>>>> drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need an
>>>>> adapter to make it work.  Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics.  On SATA drives
>>>>> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter
>>>>> card is very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons).  It can be a much,
>>>>> much better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to an
>>>>> IDE drive for an older motherboard.  By jumping to SATA right away you gain
>>>>> the ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later.  And
>>>>> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on a
>>>>> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because the
>>>>> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from
>>>>> the motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my opinion.
>>>>> A very close second is Seagate.  Comparatively speaking, the Japanese such
>>>>> as Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck.  In terms of reliability Samsungs
>>>>> from Korea are actually better than the Japanese drives.  Maxtor is
>>>>> Seagate's "budget line" - avoid.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the
>>>>> above drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then you're
>>>>> buying a pig in a poke.  You have no idea what brand of actual drive is in
>>>>> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most
>>>>> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info.  If however
>>>>> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to
>>>>> the bank that there's a WD drive in there.  Same concept for all the rest,
>>>>> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a
>>>>> Seagate-brand chassis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin <jd at twingeckos.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface.
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives.
>>>>>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice
>>>>>> since it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it.
>>>>>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it.
>>>>>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping).
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
>>>>>> I often use laptop drives for such things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is the ad:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/that an eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As
>>>>>>>> stated before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM
>>>>>>>> NetVista computer. This is what they're trying to sell:
>>>>>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive - 8MB
>>>>>>>> Cache
>>>>>>>>
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