ide-eide

Sun Nov 20 01:31:00 MST 2011

This one is even better! Which seller should I go with? Has anyone heard of
any of them?

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> My computer (IBM NetVista was produced sometime between 2000 and 2002.
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_NetVista)
>
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> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an old ed 120 gb drive. Only reason I don't use it is because its
>> noisy as hell.
>>
>> In this case I would really look into a small hardware update if you can
>> as your hitting a limit for replacement availability.
>>
>> And if you get a new Seagate or wd drive (retail not OEM) you can usually
>> get some tools to sidestep some of those limits. But if the hardware can
>> see it Linux will use it.
>> On Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> how about this drive:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM
>>>>
>>>> it is only 80 gb. Is that too big?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably
>>>>> won't boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing larger
>>>>> disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and
>>>>> it would see more of it... is there a work around?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <1.jim.march at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do
>>>>>> IDE/PATA or SATA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a
>>>>>> desktop-class drive (3.5").  BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, esp.
>>>>>> in terms of drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need an
>>>>>> adapter to make it work.  Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics.  On SATA drives
>>>>>> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter
>>>>>> card is very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons).  It can be a much,
>>>>>> much better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to an
>>>>>> IDE drive for an older motherboard.  By jumping to SATA right away you gain
>>>>>> the ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later.  And
>>>>>> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on a
>>>>>> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because the
>>>>>> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from
>>>>>> the motherboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my
>>>>>> opinion.  A very close second is Seagate.  Comparatively speaking, the
>>>>>> Japanese such as Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck.  In terms of
>>>>>> reliability Samsungs from Korea are actually better than the Japanese
>>>>>> drives.  Maxtor is Seagate's "budget line" - avoid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the
>>>>>> above drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then you're
>>>>>> buying a pig in a poke.  You have no idea what brand of actual drive is in
>>>>>> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most
>>>>>> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info.  If however
>>>>>> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to
>>>>>> the bank that there's a WD drive in there.  Same concept for all the rest,
>>>>>> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a
>>>>>> Seagate-brand chassis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin <jd at twingeckos.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface.
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives.
>>>>>>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice
>>>>>>> since it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it.
>>>>>>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it.
>>>>>>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping).
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
>>>>>>> I often use laptop drives for such things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this is the ad:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/that an eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As
>>>>>>>>> stated before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM
>>>>>>>>> NetVista computer. This is what they're trying to sell:
>>>>>>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive -
>>>>>>>>> 8MB Cache
>>>>>>>>>
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