Exploitation?

Mon Apr 25 14:22:15 MST 2011

James,

I accept your apology for the PLUG.

Have a better day.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom <
jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

> I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job.
> What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and
> motivations ie: the subject of this email
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:
>
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>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>wrote:
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>>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job post
>>> says "...This position is 90% remote...".
>>>
>>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their
>>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
>>>
>>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and
>>> worked from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he
>>> worked out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep the
>>> cost of doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe string
>>> and just stayed there.
>>>
>>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get some
>>> resume material.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
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>>> From: Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
>>>
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that job
>>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job
>>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find
>>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>>> range.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold at obnosis.com<http://mc/compose?to=lisakachold@obnosis.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Anyone seen this:
>>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>>> >
>>> > --excerpt--
>>> >
>>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr.
>>> Admin
>>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background
>>> in
>>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
>>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set.
>>> Please
>>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay
>>> rate
>>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>>> >
>>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years
>>> > UNIX - is a plus
>>> > Programing - is a plus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > * Location: Phoenix Area
>>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>>> >
>>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>>> >
>>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called
>>> Junior
>>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
>>> > $12-15 an hour?
>>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered
>>> their
>>> > domain name?
>>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
>>> >
>>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you
>>> can
>>> > work 15 minutes on the hour!
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > (503) 754-4452 iPhone
>>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype
>>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice
>>> >
>>> > http://www.it-clowns.com
>>> >
>>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and
>>> have
>>> > removed the user God." -Saros
>>>
>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig.
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>> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there.
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