Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

LOL I am not the one off topic but  I am at fault as everyone knows your 256
shades of bat*** crazy and I made the mistake of pointing it out. I assume
you will take your meds and not hurt yourself or anyone else for my
mistake....

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:

> James,
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> I accept your apology for the PLUG.
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> Have a better day.
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> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom <
> jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
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>> I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job.
>> What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and
>> motivations ie: the subject of this email
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>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:
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>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>wrote:
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>>>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job post
>>>> says "...This position is 90% remote...".
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their
>>>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
>>>>
>>>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and
>>>> worked from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he
>>>> worked out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep the
>>>> cost of doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe string
>>>> and just stayed there.
>>>>
>>>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get
>>>> some resume material.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>* wrote:
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>>>> From: Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
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>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
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>>>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>>>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>>>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>>>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that job
>>>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>>>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job
>>>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find
>>>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>>>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>>>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>>>> range.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold at obnosis.com<http://mc/compose?to=lisakachold@obnosis.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Anyone seen this:
>>>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>>>> >
>>>> > --excerpt--
>>>> >
>>>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr.
>>>> Admin
>>>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background
>>>> in
>>>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
>>>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set.
>>>> Please
>>>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay
>>>> rate
>>>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>>>> >
>>>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years
>>>> > UNIX - is a plus
>>>> > Programing - is a plus
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > * Location: Phoenix Area
>>>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>>>> >
>>>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>>>> >
>>>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called
>>>> Junior
>>>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
>>>> > $12-15 an hour?
>>>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered
>>>> their
>>>> > domain name?
>>>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
>>>> >
>>>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you
>>>> can
>>>> > work 15 minutes on the hour!
>>>> >
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>>>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account
>>>> and have
>>>> > removed the user God." -Saros
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>>>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig.
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>>> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there.
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