Exploitation?

[James Finstrom]

I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job. What
was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and
motivations ie: the subject of this email

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:

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> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>wrote:
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>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job post
>> says "...This position is 90% remote...".
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>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their
>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
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>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and worked
>> from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he worked
>> out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep the cost of
>> doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe string and just
>> stayed there.
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>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get some
>> resume material.
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>> Keith Smith
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>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>* wrote:
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>> From: Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
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>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
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>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that job
>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job
>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find
>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>> range.
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>> Kevin
>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold at obnosis.com<http://mc/compose?to=lisakachold@obnosis.com>>
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>> > Anyone seen this: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
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>> > --excerpt--
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>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr.
>> Admin
>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background
>> in
>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set.
>> Please
>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay
>> rate
>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
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>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years
>> > UNIX - is a plus
>> > Programing - is a plus
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>> > * Location: Phoenix Area
>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
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>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT:
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>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called
>> Junior
>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
>> > $12-15 an hour?
>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered
>> their
>> > domain name?
>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
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>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you
>> can
>> > work 15 minutes on the hour!
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>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype
>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice
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>> > http://www.it-clowns.com
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>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and
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>> > removed the user God." -Saros
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>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig.
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> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there.
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> have removed the user God."   -Saros
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