RH 8.0 woes

[David Mandala]

Actually the lession to learn here is NEVER use an x.0 release from Red
Hat. They ALWAYS break the x.0 releases. I've been using Red Hat since
1995 or so and I've learned the hard way never never use a x.0 release.
Switch back to the 7.3 release and most will be well, wait for the 8.1
release which will work quite nicely I'm sure.

Cheers,

Davidm


On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 09:04, Lynn David Newton wrote:
> Over the weekend I "upgraded" my system from RH 7.2 to
> 8.0. I can't remember, in 19 years of Unix system
> experience, seeing so many things break as a result of
> an upgrade. I won't bore the list with a litany of
> details; suffice it to say it's been an interesting
> weekend.
> 
> I no longer trust RH, and will likely start from
> scratch with a different distro and s the next time I
> feel a need to change my OS.
> 
> Some of the changes were dismaying to see, since they
> effectively removed functionality that I use upon which
> I have depended for some time. I have no objections to
> "different". I'm adventurous, and know that different
> can be good. But different should also be better.
> 
> Lest I get off on a rant here, let me get to the point
> of this message, which is to seek information.
> 
> o I'm using the new GNOME Blue{whatever}, and am
>   willing to give it a fair try, since I'll have to
>   live with it for a while. I'm more than merely
>   disappointed to see that it apparently no longer uses
>   sawfish as its window manager. Why not? Whatever the
>   beast is that replaces it (and I can't even figure
>   out what that is) is wimpy. I particularly hate the
>   weak support for keyboard bindings.
> 
> o Several applets that I formerly used frequently no
>   longer exist at all. Significant cases in point:
> 
>   - gnomeicu no longer works at all. Ironically, the
>     distro contains an updated version, but evidently
>     the shared library used to run it no longer exists,
>     i.e., must have been removed from the system. When
>     I try to start it from a command line (which I
>     don't expect to work, because it's an applet), I
>     get this:
> 
>     $ gnomeicu: error while loading shared libraries: libpanel_applet.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
>     I need an IRQ client available all day long in my
>     daily work, because I telecommute. I suppose I
>     could go to licq, but I hate it.
> 
>   - The wonderful little utility that used to exist for
>     making screenshots under GNOME is no longer there.
>     There is an adequate but inferior replacement,
>     captured, I believe, from KDE. Why did they replace
>     that? I want it back. I use it daily. Or used to.
> 
>   - The time and mail notification applet I used to use
>     is gone. There's a butt-ugly plain text time and
>     date gizmo, but no mail notification program I have
>     been able to locate. I could revert to using xbiff
>     from years ago, but I certainly don't want to.
> 
> That's enough complaining for one message. If anyone
> can provide any guidance concerning any of these
> matters, it will be much appreciated.
> 
> --
> Lynn David Newton
> Phoenix, AZ
>    ... just another Linux hacker trying to get some
>    work done ..
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