David,
I've liked Linux since I first came to know about it, which was around
1998.
I hope to become M$ free this year. Linux meets all of my needs,
however that was not always the case.
I used to salivate over MACs. They are expensive. I over bought about
10 years ago. My Daily is an i5 with 4 cores and 4 threads. I updated
it to 16GB of RAM years ago and changed to an SSD. I run Kubuntu on it.
I have a second box that is almost identical that is not getting any
use. I bought a Dell mini tower about 10 years ago that might have an
i3 and 6GB of RAM. Did not complete the project I bought it for. I was
going to build a LAMP+ web server and host one of my web sites. Still
on my radar.
I have a lot of old hardware that I can install Linux on and do a
project.
The reason I like Linux over the MAC is I own old hardware, and MAC is
too expensive.
My friend who owns a data center told me he prefers MAC over Linux
because he is tired of fixing Linux.
I attended a Drupal conference at ASU more than a few years ago and most
everyone owned MAC.
I did not know there was a bias on the list.
- Keith
On 2025-05-03 21:30, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Would someone kindly tell me what’s so special about their favorite
> version of Linux is versus MacOS, which is a BSD Unix derivative?
>
> I’ve think I’ve mentioned my harem of Macs:
>
> * 2014 Mac Mini
> * 2014 MacBook Pro
> * 2018 Mac Mini
> * 2024 Mac Mini
>
> They’re all still working just fine, except the MBP’s battery is
> bloating up for the 2nd time. (I hardly use it and if you keep it
> plugged-in, the battery bloats up.)
>
> I get newer ones because they get faster, handle more RAM and SSD, and
> the OS can’t be upgraded past a certain point. Which is why I keep the
> older ones around. (The older ones let you upgrade RAM and some the
> SSD. With the newer ones, you’re stuck with what it comes with.)
>
> One of them (2018) has a VirtualBox VM on that runs Win10 that I do all
> of my Windows-dependent stuff on. I don’t see why I’d need to upgrade
> it to Win11, and nobody here has given me anything worth considering.
>
> BTW, I have an older Acer box (maybe from 2000) that’s a bit smaller
> than an old Mac Mini that runs Win XP; if anybody wants it to run Linux
> on for some reason, let me know.
>
> My point is, the hardware gets old, sometimes degrades (ie, the battery
> on the MBP), the latest OS and apps can no longer be upgraded, but it
> still works fine if you want to keep using it. I’m not sure why my
> older Mac Minis still keep running but everybody thinks my Win10
> machines are going to turn into nuclear bombs in a few months just
> because MS stops updating them. Cripes, do you know how hard it is to
> keep Windows from constatly updating itself anyway? MacOS keeps asking
> even though it’s says it can’t if I say OK!
>
> I have apps on both my 2014 and 2018 Mac Minis that will stop working
> if I upgrade the OS, so I refuse.
>
> And now it seems you can’t run VMs on M-series CPUs that contain any
> version of Windows unless you use one specific version of Parallels
> with an ARM-based version of Windows, and it reportedly runs slower
> than crap.
>
> Just for fun, I went from 36GB of RAM to 64GB in my 2018 model and
> where before the fan would constantly be running, now it never comes
> on.
>
> Macs run Unix. It’s not like I’m a crazy-ass Mac fan — I just find them
> to be WAY more stable than Windows machines.
>
> When I need to get down to the command-line, the *nix shell is FAR more
> powerful than the DOS Command line. But I rarely ever need to do that
> on ANY of them lately. I think the only reasons I’ve run the Mac’s
> Terminal is to use the shell to find some specific files because find
> piped into grep works a whole lot better than the search bar in the
> Finder.
>
> So while I understand (and share) the “anti-Windows” sentiments here, I
> don’t get the “pro-Linux” but “anti-Mac” attitude because Macs are all
> Unix machines at their core.
>
> I’ve tossed out maybe a dozen DOS and Windows machines in my life. My
> first Mac (a first gen Intel iMac) died and I actually sold it on eBay
> for almost $500! I’ve bought and sold some other Macs and never had to
> toss a single one into the trash. I’m not eager to replace the battery
> on my MBP again, but it will still be way cheaper than a new MBP.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>> On May 3, 2025, at 4:10 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Rusty!! I agree!!
>>
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