Am 18. Jun, 2024 schwätzte Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss so:
moin moin Hawk,
> I would like to try one of these, but I’m not sure how much they
> cost. Also, are these windows or Lennox and if Lennox, will they run the
The 13 was about $1300 for self-assemble. Pre-assembled is another 2 or 3
hundred dollars.
They default to windows, but several Linux distributions are supported.
I don't know about screen readers.
For another install today I saw that the new LTS version of Ubuntu asked
about accessibility and included screen reader as an option, but that was
several screens in.
ciao,
der.hans
> screen reader orca? If Windows, will they accept NVDA? If other, what
> accessibility options are available. I’d like to get one of these just
> as a test case to see how well it actually works for me.
>
> – Eric
> From the offices of the Technomage guild, equipment, procurement, and testing department.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 6:58 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> Am 12. Jun, 2024 schwätzte Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss so:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>>> "I haven't yet tried it in an airplane seat. Driver's seat of a car was
>>> annoying due to steering wheel, but passenger and back seats were fine."
>>>
>>> those pesky steering wheels getting in the way of real work,
>>
>> The car was parked and off, which made it fairly easy to switch to the
>> passenger seat :).
>>
>> Passenger seat is also better for nap mode.
>>
>> Importantly with the Framework, it handled the heat just fine. It didn't
>> fry my legs or overheat in an unairconditioned car. It's also done fine
>> sitting out in the heat for our Summer afternoons and evenings.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 10:14 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 09. Jun, 2024 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so:
>>>>
>>>> moin moin,
>>>>
>>>>> I have several Framework (both AMD and Intel) laptops including the
>>>>> Framework 16 and they're great. Yeah there's some small fit an finish
>>>>> issues that some have pointed out but IMO is an acceptable tradeoff for
>>>>> being repairable and upgradable.
>>>>
>>>> How's the 16 for heft and mobility?
>>>>
>>>> I have the 13 and it's quite dainty. It's light and easy to use pretty
>>>> well anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't yet tried it in an airplane seat. Driver's seat of a car was
>>>> annoying due to steering wheel, but passenger and back seats were fine.
>>>>
>>>> It's also been fine for all the desktop stuff I've done on it. Haven't
>>>> gone up over a few instances of Firefox running at the same time and have
>>>> kept them all under 20 tabs, so it's been pretty light for browsing.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't yet started putting containers or databases on it, so haven't
>>>> exercised it much that way either.
>>>>
>>>>> If anything, the ability to change out the ports is great. Imagine the
>>>>> situation where you're sitting at a table, plugged in, and someone comes
>>>>> by and kicks your power cable ripping it out of the computer. In a lot
>>>>> of cases with other laptops, you're now going to have to replace that
>>>>> port as it's going to at the very least break the solder joints; and
>>>>> you're not going to be able to replace just that port as it's soldered
>>>>> to the motherboard. Now you have a $500+ repair minimum to replace the
>>>>> motherboard in your laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the Framework, you likely just damaged the $10 expansion card. So
>>>>> you pull it out, replace it with another one, and move on with your day.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, extra layer of protection.
>>>>
>>>> I just went for 4 USB C ports and the USB C hubs I always carry with me
>>>> anyway. If the network port didn't stick out I'd get one of those.
>>>>
>>>> ciao,
>>>>
>>>> der.hans
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024, at 4:54 PM, Arun Khan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 9:27 PM Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-02-27 00:03, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>>>>> This actually looks rather cool, thought I'd share with fellow geeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://frame.work/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might look at one of these if/when they come about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How time flies. Three years later and Framework Computer Inc still
>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to be going strong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A friend of mine has bought it and swears by the hardware flexibility
>>>> (mix and match).
>>>>>> I am contemplating it for my next laptop, although my 6-year-old
>>>> Thinkpad is still going strong :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Arun Khan
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