Am 18. Jun, 2024 schwätzte Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss so: moin moin Hawk, > I would like to try one of these, but I’m not sure how much they > cost. Also, are these windows or Lennox and if Lennox, will they run the The 13 was about $1300 for self-assemble. Pre-assembled is another 2 or 3 hundred dollars. They default to windows, but several Linux distributions are supported. I don't know about screen readers. For another install today I saw that the new LTS version of Ubuntu asked about accessibility and included screen reader as an option, but that was several screens in. ciao, der.hans > screen reader orca? If Windows, will they accept NVDA? If other, what > accessibility options are available. I’d like to get one of these just > as a test case to see how well it actually works for me. > > – Eric > From the offices of the Technomage guild, equipment, procurement, and testing department. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 18, 2024, at 6:58 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> Am 12. Jun, 2024 schwätzte Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss so: >> >> moin moin, >> >>> "I haven't yet tried it in an airplane seat. Driver's seat of a car was >>> annoying due to steering wheel, but passenger and back seats were fine." >>> >>> those pesky steering wheels getting in the way of real work, >> >> The car was parked and off, which made it fairly easy to switch to the >> passenger seat :). >> >> Passenger seat is also better for nap mode. >> >> Importantly with the Framework, it handled the heat just fine. It didn't >> fry my legs or overheat in an unairconditioned car. It's also done fine >> sitting out in the heat for our Summer afternoons and evenings. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> >>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 10:14 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss < >>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Am 09. Jun, 2024 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so: >>>> >>>> moin moin, >>>> >>>>> I have several Framework (both AMD and Intel) laptops including the >>>>> Framework 16 and they're great. Yeah there's some small fit an finish >>>>> issues that some have pointed out but IMO is an acceptable tradeoff for >>>>> being repairable and upgradable. >>>> >>>> How's the 16 for heft and mobility? >>>> >>>> I have the 13 and it's quite dainty. It's light and easy to use pretty >>>> well anywhere. >>>> >>>> I haven't yet tried it in an airplane seat. Driver's seat of a car was >>>> annoying due to steering wheel, but passenger and back seats were fine. >>>> >>>> It's also been fine for all the desktop stuff I've done on it. Haven't >>>> gone up over a few instances of Firefox running at the same time and have >>>> kept them all under 20 tabs, so it's been pretty light for browsing. >>>> >>>> I haven't yet started putting containers or databases on it, so haven't >>>> exercised it much that way either. >>>> >>>>> If anything, the ability to change out the ports is great. Imagine the >>>>> situation where you're sitting at a table, plugged in, and someone comes >>>>> by and kicks your power cable ripping it out of the computer. In a lot >>>>> of cases with other laptops, you're now going to have to replace that >>>>> port as it's going to at the very least break the solder joints; and >>>>> you're not going to be able to replace just that port as it's soldered >>>>> to the motherboard. Now you have a $500+ repair minimum to replace the >>>>> motherboard in your laptop. >>>>> >>>>> With the Framework, you likely just damaged the $10 expansion card. So >>>>> you pull it out, replace it with another one, and move on with your day. >>>> >>>> Yeah, extra layer of protection. >>>> >>>> I just went for 4 USB C ports and the USB C hubs I always carry with me >>>> anyway. If the network port didn't stick out I'd get one of those. >>>> >>>> ciao, >>>> >>>> der.hans >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024, at 4:54 PM, Arun Khan via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 9:27 PM Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss < >>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2021-02-27 00:03, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>>>>> This actually looks rather cool, thought I'd share with fellow geeks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://frame.work/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Might look at one of these if/when they come about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -mb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How time flies. Three years later and Framework Computer Inc still >>>> seems >>>>>>> to be going strong. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend of mine has bought it and swears by the hardware flexibility >>>> (mix and match). >>>>>> I am contemplating it for my next laptop, although my 6-year-old >>>> Thinkpad is still going strong :) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Arun Khan >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> # https://www.SpiralArray.com https://www.PhxLinux.org >>>> # "No software design or plan survives contact with reality." >>>> # -- Lars Wirzenius, 2012Feb19 http://identi.ca/notice/90842065 >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> # https://www.SpiralArray.com https://www.PhxLinux.org >> # "You want weapons? 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