David,
Interesting Feedback. I keep saying you need a blog.
Keith
On 2024-04-20 13:43, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> I started learning Delphi (originally called TurboPascal 8) when it was
> first released in 1995. In 2000 I spent most of the year building a
> web-based app using PHP, HTML, JS, and MySQL, a project I later
> abandoned b/c after digging around in some open-source code I found
> things there that would allow anybody to build my magical thing simply
> by uncommenting some compiler options that prevented some existing code
> from working. That was quite depressing.
>
> So I turned back to Delphi and didn’t look back. There was a huge
> growth in Delphi’s use over the next 8-10 years in the adoption of
> Delphi for corporate software. It was eventually eclipsed by C#/.NET,
> and today the majority of jobs for Delphi programmers (in America,
> anyway) are maintenance positions keeping these legacy systems working.
>
> Delphi was originally owned by Borland, who renamed itself Inprise,
> then split off their languages into CodeGear, which was finally sold to
> a private equity group named Embarcadero. Embarcadero itself has been
> bought and absorbed into a couple more companies, but they still keep
> cranking out new versions of Delphi annually. One thing they have NOT
> done is enhance the language much (probably b/c they dumped their dev
> team several years ago and are mostly just a marketing company now).
> They keep adding stuff to the periphery that targets the more
> premium-priced versions of the product (through product acquisitions),
> and keep steadily raising the price. Consequently, most of their
> revenues now coms from non-US sources, including Brazil, Columbia, and
> several European countries.
>
> Delphi’s main target platform is still Windows, although it also
> supports MacOS, iOS, Android, and Linux.
>
> The world has been moving towards a situation where more and more logic
> is being pushed into the browser, and Delphi’s owner has done nothing
> to help with that.
>
> But a 3rd-party Delphi component/library vendor, TMS Software, has been
> working on something called TMS WEB Core that lets you write code
> within the Delphi IDE in Object Pascal and generate javascript apps
> that run in most any web browser. They’re basically using a transpiler
> to compile Delphi’s Object Pascal into javascript, and they’re into
> their fourth year of development of that technology. It’s an awesome
> platform. The transpiler itself, pas2js, is an open-source project, but
> the supporting infrastructure they use is proprietary. Thankfully,
> they’ve made some small enhancements to Delphi’s language to make it
> much easier to deal with the async nature of web programming.
>
> The thing is, Embarcadero acts as if all of this is irrelevant. They
> just keep plodding forward making trivial enhancements to the language
> and piling on more and more Windows-specific additions to the platform
> the same way they’ve always done.
>
> The work TMS has done is slowly gaining traction, but since the vast
> majority of Delphi work is simply keeping a bunch of apps written
> between 2004 and 2009 alive, we’re not seeing much growth in new dev
> work.
>
> For a little while there were some components that let you integrate
> php with Delphi apps, but they fizzled out pretty quickly due to lack
> of interest.
>
> Today there’s a lot more interest in some components that allow you to
> ingegrate Python scripts into Delphi.
>
> But by far the most interest is in leveraging javascript (mostly via
> WEB Core) to support the client-side UI aspects of your project without
> having to know a lick of js.
>
> Sadly, Delphi’s owners aren’t as insightful as Wordpress’ owners.
>
> My biggest complaint is that memory management that web browsers employ
> for js apps is horrible. It consumes system memory and loses track of
> it to the point where the machine (my Macs, anyway) eventually just
> choke and spontaneously reboot for lack of available memory.
>
> I hope Matt helps fix this problem because it impacts everybody who is
> using js inside of web browsers to build increasingly complex
> client-side apps.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
>> On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:32 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This article says WordPress is moving away from PHP to JavaScript. I
>> think WordPress is shooting itself in the foot. My main question has
>> to do with resources given the shift from server side processing to
>> browser based processing.
>>
>> https://thenewstack.io/why-php-usage-has-declined-by-40-in-just-over-2-years/
>>
>> Your thoughts are much appreciated.
>>
>> Keith
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