Ok, Thanks!!
On 2023-07-20 10:59, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very
> pricy to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better off
> looking for and buying a refurbished server which you can get for
> almost ludicrously inexpensive prices.
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore --
>> it's of the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e.
>> skylake). It also uses a server socket, so the only motherboards
>> you're going to be able to find are server motherboards. Those are
>> going to be expensive and/or have other quirks, such as requiring a
>> vendor specific heatsink, or a vendor-specific power supply, or take
>> 5 minutes to start up, etc.
>>
>> You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and
>> motherboard, for instance here's a combination that is relatively
>> cheap:
>>
>> $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net [1] is
>> nearly 30% faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146,
>> much faster single-core score as well):
>>
> https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/
>>
>> $139 for a compatible motherboard:
>>
> https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/
>>
>> I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you
>> think you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of
>> virtual processors that is much more than what you actually have,
>> and as long as you're not trying to go whole hog on every machine at
>> the same time you'll be fine, and even if you do, you'll still be
>> better off with a faster processor with a few fewer threads than an
>> older slower cpu with more.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server
>>> CPU. It
>>>
>>> is marked at $32.49 at Newegg. It has 12 cores and 24 threads and
>>> has a
>>>
>>> good benchmark score.
>>>
>>>
>>
> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179
>>>
>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon
>>>
>>> In the future at some point I would like to build something with
>>> 20 plus
>>>
>>> or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox. This
>>> would be
>>>
>>> over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time...
>>> maybe 3
>>>
>>> in an extreme situation.
>>>
>>> This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would
>>> really
>>>
>>> be more resources than I would ever need. Off the top of my head
>>> this
>>>
>>> means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 -
>>> $600.
>>>
>>> I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running
>>> Win 10
>>>
>>> or 11... I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11?
>>>
>>> Am I on the right track?
>>>
>>> Thank You For Your Feedback!!
>>>
>>> Keith
>>> is
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> Stephen
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