Ok, Thanks!! On 2023-07-20 10:59, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very > pricy to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better off > looking for and buying a refurbished server which you can get for > almost ludicrously inexpensive prices. > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore -- >> it's of the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e. >> skylake). It also uses a server socket, so the only motherboards >> you're going to be able to find are server motherboards. Those are >> going to be expensive and/or have other quirks, such as requiring a >> vendor specific heatsink, or a vendor-specific power supply, or take >> 5 minutes to start up, etc. >> >> You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and >> motherboard, for instance here's a combination that is relatively >> cheap: >> >> $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net [1] is >> nearly 30% faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146, >> much faster single-core score as well): >> > https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/ >> >> $139 for a compatible motherboard: >> > https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/ >> >> I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you >> think you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of >> virtual processors that is much more than what you actually have, >> and as long as you're not trying to go whole hog on every machine at >> the same time you'll be fine, and even if you do, you'll still be >> better off with a faster processor with a few fewer threads than an >> older slower cpu with more. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server >>> CPU. It >>> >>> is marked at $32.49 at Newegg. It has 12 cores and 24 threads and >>> has a >>> >>> good benchmark score. >>> >>> >> > https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179 >>> >>> https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon >>> >>> In the future at some point I would like to build something with >>> 20 plus >>> >>> or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox. This >>> would be >>> >>> over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time... >>> maybe 3 >>> >>> in an extreme situation. >>> >>> This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would >>> really >>> >>> be more resources than I would ever need. Off the top of my head >>> this >>> >>> means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 - >>> $600. >>> >>> I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running >>> Win 10 >>> >>> or 11... I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11? >>> >>> Am I on the right track? >>> >>> Thank You For Your Feedback!! >>> >>> Keith >>> is >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://cpubenchmark.net > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss