they want over $200 for a paperback book?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 2:44 AM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> What about this book for a starter:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Shell-Script-Programming-Meadors/dp/0619159200/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17G30RXKOVSVK&keywords=linux+shell+script+programming+book&qid=1671781328&sprefix=linux+shell+sc%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1
>
> try and find it on abebooks.com for better price
> 9780619159207 - AbeBooks
> <https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=9780619159207&sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-topnav-_-Results&ds=20>
>
> $251.83
> 9780619159207 - AbeBooks
>
> Linux Shell Script Programming by Meadors, Todd and a great selection of
> related books, art and collectibles ava...
>
> <https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=9780619159207&sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-topnav-_-Results&ds=20>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:10:05 AM MST, trent shipley via
> PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>
> That would have been the early 80's. When BASIC was not owned by
> Microsoft, when it was spelled BASIC for whatever compiler you used, and it
> had line numbers, and GOTOs. I started programming in a gifted program
> with a dumb impact printing terminal with an acoustic coupler you stuck a
> phone handset into to network over the public switched telephone network
> after I got into a gifted student's class in 5th or 6th grade. I didn't
> get a CS major in college because you had to travel between central Kansas
> liberal arts colleges for classes and I didn't have a car, so I majored in
> math instead, and never have broken into the software or IT world, really.
> But now I'm getting close.
>
> In those days you started with Logo or Turtle, or maybe BASIC, and then
> started seriously studying programming with Pascal, then you learned C and
> later complained that they didn't put you on a Unix machine working with C
> starting in CS105. We had no idea how awful things were compared to what
> would come.
>
>
>
> Trent
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:51 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> trent shipley via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 07:26:18 -0700
>
> >Python is a great first language, and there is no shortage of beginning
> >Python books aimed at young beginners. I've never read a juvenalia
> >programming book, except maybe pre-Visual Basic BASIC with the line
> >numbers and goto-s,
>
> In the 21st century, anyone who teaches a child goto-s, or even fails
> to strongly criticize them to the child, should be shot at dawn.
>
> The only tolerable uses for goto are:
>
> 1) Assembly language, but who uses that today? And modern assemblers
> have JSR (Jump to Subroutine) and RET (Return from subroutine), so
> even that is questionable.
>
> 2) Jump to an abort subroutine, but even this is ill advised.
>
> 3) Break out of a multiply nested loop, but it's much better to
> construct each loop to do the right thing.
>
> I haven't used a goto since maybe 1992 (assembler), and I'm proud of
> that.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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> http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm
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