they want over $200 for a paperback book? On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 2:44 AM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > What about this book for a starter: > > https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Shell-Script-Programming-Meadors/dp/0619159200/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17G30RXKOVSVK&keywords=linux+shell+script+programming+book&qid=1671781328&sprefix=linux+shell+sc%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1 > > try and find it on abebooks.com for better price > 9780619159207 - AbeBooks > > > $251.83 > 9780619159207 - AbeBooks > > Linux Shell Script Programming by Meadors, Todd and a great selection of > related books, art and collectibles ava... > > > > > > > On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:10:05 AM MST, trent shipley via > PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > That would have been the early 80's. When BASIC was not owned by > Microsoft, when it was spelled BASIC for whatever compiler you used, and it > had line numbers, and GOTOs. I started programming in a gifted program > with a dumb impact printing terminal with an acoustic coupler you stuck a > phone handset into to network over the public switched telephone network > after I got into a gifted student's class in 5th or 6th grade. I didn't > get a CS major in college because you had to travel between central Kansas > liberal arts colleges for classes and I didn't have a car, so I majored in > math instead, and never have broken into the software or IT world, really. > But now I'm getting close. > > In those days you started with Logo or Turtle, or maybe BASIC, and then > started seriously studying programming with Pascal, then you learned C and > later complained that they didn't put you on a Unix machine working with C > starting in CS105. We had no idea how awful things were compared to what > would come. > > > > Trent > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:51 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > trent shipley via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 07:26:18 -0700 > > >Python is a great first language, and there is no shortage of beginning > >Python books aimed at young beginners. I've never read a juvenalia > >programming book, except maybe pre-Visual Basic BASIC with the line > >numbers and goto-s, > > In the 21st century, anyone who teaches a child goto-s, or even fails > to strongly criticize them to the child, should be shot at dawn. > > The only tolerable uses for goto are: > > 1) Assembly language, but who uses that today? And modern assemblers > have JSR (Jump to Subroutine) and RET (Return from subroutine), so > even that is questionable. > > 2) Jump to an abort subroutine, but even this is ill advised. > > 3) Break out of a multiply nested loop, but it's much better to > construct each loop to do the right thing. > > I haven't used a goto since maybe 1992 (assembler), and I'm proud of > that. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: