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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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To: trent shipley
CC: Stephen Partington, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp
Got it. they have those options.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:28 PM trent shipley <>
wrote:

> No Stephen,
>
> I'm saying I don't like administering this kind of thing. I'm willing to
> pay a service like $125.00 per year for a terabyte of storage, like I for
> for Google Drive, but if I do I want the risk management of my
> data--including business risk of bankruptcy, protection against data
> corruption and loss, protection against accidental or malicious access to
> my private information or data, and uptime to be comparable to Google's.
>
> Trent
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 3:08 PM Stephen Partington <>
> wrote:
>
>> nextcloud has a desktop client for most OS's Win, OX, and Linux of
>> multiple varieties. but it otherwise runs as a website application. If
>> you do not want to run a Linus box it runs well in docker or a vm, and they
>> have ready-to-run images for you. I run it nicely as part of my unlimited
>> hosting, but without a memory cache of any sort, it has moments of
>> sluggishness. and The sync tool runs much like Google Drive sync or MS
>> Onedrive you point it at one or moe directories. Once a change happens
>> there it is replicated up and to other client machines.
>>
>> https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/
>> https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a
>>> Linux desktop more. It's like owning a classic car. You're always
>>> tinkering with it. The other is "why won't Word ****### run on this!")
>>>
>>> With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies
>>> running nextcloud services for consumers. Can nextcloud services be
>>> integrated into GUI file browsers on the three OSes? (Maybe with something
>>> like FUSE or son-of-FUSE?) Some nice things about Google Drive and
>>> OneDrive is they are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data
>>> with them and they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely
>>> than I could (of course, they may use it for big data research, targeted
>>> marketing, and State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a
>>> search warrant.)
>>>
>>> Trent
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:14 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is
>>>> immensely powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has
>>>> been easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement
>>>> Nginx because of this) but it runs very well this way.
>>>>
>>>> If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they
>>>> suggest. It will be a huge performance boost.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud
>>>>> for years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
>>>>> otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
>>>>> it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
>>>>> everywhere, including my phone and tablet.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
>>>>> Nextcloud storage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
>>>>> PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I
>>>>> get
>>>>>
>>>>> > stuck rotating between all three OSes. I mostly store my stuff or
>>>>> Google
>>>>>
>>>>> > Drive, but some on OneDrive. I can access both fine on Windows.
>>>>> Accessing
>>>>>
>>>>> > OneDrive from my iMac works OK. I've had the iMac unable to find
>>>>> files on
>>>>>
>>>>> > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why. I haven't experimented with
>>>>> Google
>>>>>
>>>>> > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK. There doesn't seem to
>>>>> be a
>>>>>
>>>>> > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
>>>>> drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive
>>>>> and I
>>>>>
>>>>> > haven't tried OneDrive yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage
>>>>> inter-operates best
>>>>>
>>>>> > with all three OSes?" Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
>>>>>
>>>>> > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then*
>>>>> see
>>>>>
>>>>> > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX
>>>>> now and
>>>>>
>>>>> > with Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on
>>>>> FOSS or
>>>>>
>>>>> > Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > Trent
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>


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rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

Stephen
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