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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
CC: Stephen Partington
Subject: Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp
nextcloud has a desktop client for most OS's Win, OX, and Linux of multiple
varieties. but it otherwise runs as a website application. If you do not
want to run a Linus box it runs well in docker or a vm, and they have
ready-to-run images for you. I run it nicely as part of my unlimited
hosting, but without a memory cache of any sort, it has moments of
sluggishness. and The sync tool runs much like Google Drive sync or MS
Onedrive you point it at one or moe directories. Once a change happens
there it is replicated up and to other client machines.

https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/
https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients




On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a
> Linux desktop more. It's like owning a classic car. You're always
> tinkering with it. The other is "why won't Word ****### run on this!")
>
> With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies running
> nextcloud services for consumers. Can nextcloud services be integrated
> into GUI file browsers on the three OSes? (Maybe with something like FUSE
> or son-of-FUSE?) Some nice things about Google Drive and OneDrive is they
> are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data with them and
> they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely than I could (of
> course, they may use it for big data research, targeted marketing, and
> State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a search warrant.)
>
> Trent
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:14 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
>> +1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is immensely
>> powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has been
>> easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement Nginx
>> because of this) but it runs very well this way.
>>
>> If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they suggest.
>> It will be a huge performance boost.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud for
>>> years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.
>>>
>>> It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
>>> otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
>>> it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
>>> everywhere, including my phone and tablet.
>>>
>>> There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
>>> Nextcloud storage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
>>> PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>
>>> > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I
>>> get
>>>
>>> > stuck rotating between all three OSes. I mostly store my stuff or
>>> Google
>>>
>>> > Drive, but some on OneDrive. I can access both fine on Windows.
>>> Accessing
>>>
>>> > OneDrive from my iMac works OK. I've had the iMac unable to find
>>> files on
>>>
>>> > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why. I haven't experimented with
>>> Google
>>>
>>> > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK. There doesn't seem to
>>> be a
>>>
>>> > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
>>> drives.
>>>
>>> > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and
>>> I
>>>
>>> > haven't tried OneDrive yet.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates
>>> best
>>>
>>> > with all three OSes?" Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
>>>
>>> > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then*
>>> see
>>>
>>> > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now
>>> and
>>>
>>> > with Windows.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS
>>> or
>>>
>>> > Linux.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Trent
>>>
>>>
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